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Posted by
alan stone
how many YEARS have you lived in montague??????????????????????????
Posted by
joyce napikoski lisenby
I, too, used to live in Montague, Millers Falls, to be exact. Enjoy the links I can find to places back east. Keep those cards and letters coming folks.
Posted by
Richard Cotter
I used to live in Turners Falls, and moved to Canada in 1968. I now live in Calgary, Alberta and found this web site. I would love to hear from my 1958 class mates.
Posted by
Mik
Posted by
Brian and Alice McGowan
We would like to bring attention to a road-related issue that we believe should concern many residents of Montague.It is directly related to the current traffic concerns in the center of the village, but has even more far-reaching impacts in the long-term . This is the proposed re-building of Greenfield Road all the way from the Sewage Treatment Plant in Montague City to the Bookmill. Current plans include widening the entire length of that road to approximately 35 feet! This is the same width as Turner's Falls Road at its newest, widest point, to provide you with a point of reference.
Posted by
Greenfield Recorder
Montague's Web site a real 'corker'
Posted by
Joanie Cohen-Mitchell
Montague Institute for New Directions (M.I.N.D.)
Posted by
Cathi Emery
The Gill-Montague Regional School District School Committee meeting originally scheduled for Tuesday, March 6 has been cancelled. The next meeting of this committee will be on Tuesday, March 20 at 7:30 p.m. in the cafeteria at Sheffield School.
Posted by
Debora Seidman
Writing The Body Home---a 10 week writing workshop for women, in Montague Center, begins March 22. Led by Debora Seidman, playwright and poet. Thursday evenings, 6-9 PM. Tuition is $250.00 Call for more info: 367-0127, or email DSeidman@aol.com
Posted by
Alice Armen
I am raising heritage turkeys of different types here in Montague Center. These are the old fashioned colored turkeys that can breed on their own, and are in danger of becoming extinct.
Posted by
Anne Flaherty
Our closest friends from Brooklyn, NY (a writer & a painter & their two kids ages 4 & 1) are looking to rent a whole house in Montague Center area sometime this summer 2001 for reasonable price or trade (animal care, plant care, etc). If you happen to be going away for one or a couple weeks we'd love to negotiate something with you. Thank you!
Posted by
sue cole
Am looking for the woman who bought my sewing machine for $5 at a yard sale fall'99, corner of school & Main, Montague Center. I found the attachments when I moved--call Heather at 367-0007 to claim.
Posted by
Mik
Posted by
Jenny Chapin
In the Nov/Dec 2000 issue of Sanctuary, the Mass. Aubdubon Society magazine, there's an article on the Montague Plains and the need for fire to keep it a healthy pine barrens; lists various species of plants, moths and butterflies, some rare, to be found in this tract of land. If anyone's interested in a copy of this 2-page article, let me know, I'll be happy to get one to you.
Posted by
Robin Sherman
The Town is currently updating its assessment of the accessibility of Town-owned facilities and programs to people with disabilities. Such facilities include all Town-owned buildings, parks and town-run programs. We are looking for residents who would be interested in serving on a committee to address accessibility of town facilities and programs. It is particularly important that people with disabilities be represented. If you or someone you know in Montague is interested in this issue, please contact the Select Board office at 863-3204, or send me an email with your name, address and phone number and I will forward it to the Select Board.
Posted by
Robin Sherman
The Commonwealth of Massachusetts is currently soliciting applications for matching grants to support transportation-related projects that improve air quality. The goal of the grant program is to encourage alternatives to driving alone, such as public transit, bicycling and walking. If you have ideas for potential grant projects in Montague, please contact me at my office ASAP to determine whether they are possibilities for this program, as the deadline to apply is March 12. I have more information on the program if anyone is interested.
Posted by
Mik
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Nicole Cusano
Posted by
Cindy Tarail
Hi--if you like to bake bread and always wondered about sourdough--how about taking some wonderful FREE sourdough starter grown from King Arthur's stock and giving it a go? I've got enough for 6 people or so and it's ready to rock. Please call. Please. It's taking over my house!!!
Posted by
Jenny Chapin
Re: Slow Village sign - another thought is to simply put in an additional word so that the sign reads "slow-paced".
Posted by
Douglas Brown
Just a general announcement to inform the community of the continual support for the DARE program and it's endeavors within the Town of Montague and the County at large. This recent posting was sent to the Recorder to recognize a local benevolent society for their monetary contribution to the program and their continued support. If any citizen would like further information about the program, it's involvement or responsibility, I would encourage you to contact me and would be willing to share the insights of our commitment within the community with you. The following is our recognition of the Montague Elk's support
Posted by
Cathi Emery
Please find below the schedule for School Committee meetings for February and March.
Posted by
Library
A PUBLIC FORUM ON THE PROPOSED ADDITION / RENOVATION TO THE CARNEGIE PUBLIC LIBRARY WILL BE HELD ON TUESDAY FEBRUARY 13, 2001 6:30 PM.
Posted by
Chris Wise
I have to agree with Jenny on this one. We should be grateful that we are considered a "Slow Village" and not "Thickly Settled".
Posted by
Jenny Chapin
A very belated response to Paul Kaufman’s email of 1/20 re: the "Slow Village" sign on the way into Montague Ctr.: I gotta say, every time I pass that sign it makes me smile, if not downright laugh. It certainly sounds as if those entering the village should be looking out for four-leggeds who are "not all there"; there’s more than one way to take that, and I prefer to keep a sense of humor, especially with those things that come out sounding not at all the way we meant them. Of course, it could also be seen as a compliment, in these rushed days...
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Mark
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Mark
Posted by
Michelle Rehorka
Hi...I have a few boxes of used toys (like new) that my children have outgrown. Things ranging from infant to 2/3 years of age - rattles, puzzles, balls, blocks, books, stuffed animals - things of that nature. If interested, please email me. Must take EVERYTHING. I need to make room for new things! Thank-you.
Posted by
Mik
Posted by
Johannah
Hi,
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Mik
Posted by
Cynthia Tarail
Preschool News from the Gill-Montague Community Partnership for Children: Help with tuition! New video about child care/education! New eligibility rules!
Posted by
Ingrid Bredenberg
LifeShaping Series for People in Transition
Posted by
Craig Hollingsworth
Old Time Jazz Concert and Swing Dance Feb 10, 2001
Posted by
Amy Bourbeau
I am a member of the Montague Center School Community School Council, the MC PTO and a parent of two school aged boys.
Posted by
dori mccormack
We have an apartment available Feb. 15, or there about. It's a big and pretty studio (or, with some handywork, a one bedroom), separate kitchen. Lots o' light. Hardwood floors. Deck. Garden space. Montague Center. Propane and Wood heat. $500, inc. electricity.
Posted by
Mik
Posted by
Mik
BR-R-R-R-R!!Well, it was a very cold walk. 5 degrees I believe. But it was a GOOD walk! In attendance were Eddie Mlecko from the Highway Department, Police Cheif O’Brien, Tom Adams, Rob Hendry (and his dog), and Chris and Hannah Wise. We determined where the signs will go and got approval to put them up whenever we were ready. We also came up with some more traffic safety and calming ideas: 1. The biggest and boldest idea came from Cheif O’Brien himself: Close off the section of Main street west of the commons, extending the grass/park area all the way over to the sidewalk. WOW! That pretty much stopped us in our tracks. He sited the dangerous yield/intersection of Center Street as it merges with Main Street (north west corner of the commons) and how the smooth leftward bend or northbound Main Street allows for a feeling of being on a runway, fostering an instinct to speed. Here’s how it would work after the proposed change: Vehicles driving north up Main Street would drive straight up the North Street Extension (by the church) and come to the stop sign. They would then have to turn left to continue up Main Street. Southbound vehicles would have to drive straight east across Center Street and then turn right onto the North Street Extension then continue straight down Main Street. The theory behind this is that the stop sign and 90 degree turn would slow traffic going up and down Main street, and would allow for a skinnier Main Street in some places. Eddie Mlecko said it would be easy to set up a test for a few weeks with Jerry Barricades (those concrete barriers) to cordon off that section of Main Street. We could install traffic sensors before the test and after the test to determin the effect on speed and volume. 2. Grass Peninsulas could be added along Main Street, as done in Greenfield, to skinny-up Main Street and add more pedestrian space. For vehicles driving up and down Main Street the perception would no longer be a wide expansive highway-like strip, but a small town common feel. 3. Eddie Mlecko mentioned that in a couple of years when the street gets repaved they would be inlaying red cobblestones to the crosswalks to physically deliniate the pedestrian right-of-way and add an audible ripple like effect when vehicles pass over them. These crosswalks would remain at grade level for plowing purposes, and to maintain driver control over their vehicles. 4. Business-sponsored cones would be put out in the middle of the road every morning and brought in each evening. 5. City "barrels" could be chained to signposts on the SIDE of the road, to help prevent theft, instead of left in the middle of the road. Perhaps in some places a barrel could be in the center with one chained to each side of the road. 6. Posting a cruiser at the post office. 7. Adding a chevron or arrow sign to the hard right turn on the northbound side as you leave the commons area and head up towards the bookmill (Hannah mentioned that many cars are taken unaware of the upcoming turn and wind up in the left lane as they roar around the corner). --- Since we now have approval, it’s possible to put the signs up at will. I suggest Sunday when we may have a photographer from the Greenfield Recorder show up. They wanted to take my picture in regards to the "story" and if we have a crowd with screwdrivers, pliers and pitchforks it may make a great shot and show off our community spirit and support. (BTW, I was kidding about the pitchforks.) Let me know, and I’ll let everone know if the Recorder can show up and at what time. I’ll get the bolts at work today or tomorrow. The Grange will be holding a Community Talk meeting in the near future to discuss all the above as well as other ideas about traffic calming in all five town of Montague. Contact the Grange for more info. -Mik
Posted by
chris wise
Does anyone know a good contractor who can repair a foundation and pour a concrete basement floor? We're looking for someone to do this sometime this summer. Any leads would be appreciated!
Posted by
The Brick House
FREE YOGA-Gently yoga series. Four Fridays in February: Feb 2nd, 9th, 16th, 23rd. 1-2 pm at The Brick House 34 Central St. Turners Falls, MA. Wear loose comfortable clothing and bring a towel or blanket. Please call 863-9576 for more info or to sign up.
Posted by
Jan Hogan
Come out and enjoy the snow! Join the Montague Parks & Recreation Dept. as we sponsor Winter Carnival 2001 in Montague, this weekend January 25-28th. So many events happening for everyone! Just go to the MontagueMa.net webpage and click on parks and then the Winter Carnival link for a schedule of events, or pick up Thurs. Recorder and look in the Arts & Entertainment section for the story and list of events or call me for more info. Please make this an event to remember and look forward to every year! Thanks, Jan
Posted by
Marina Goldman
TIME TO DANCE!!
Posted by
Mik
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The Greenfield Recorder
Gill, Montague OK school spending
Posted by
Mike Naughton
Yesterday's vote is certainly good news for those who want to see this project go forward. However, I think it is important to remember that much work remains to be done.
Posted by
Hillary
Does anyone know of anyone selling split seasoned wood? We are having a difficult time finding any wood that isn't green and IS in good condition. If you have any leads or information, please email me! Thanks!
Posted by
Debora Seidman
I'm looking for some help transporting a desk from Amherst to Montague. I probably have a vehicle large enough, but I need help lifting and carrying. There are stairs involved on both ends. I can pay you for your time.
Posted by
Mik
Posted by
Mary Kociela
There's still time if you haven't voted today!!! Please vote yes and support the Middle School/High School renovation and building project. We need your vote!!!
Posted by
Debora Seidman
Writing The Body Home, writing workshops for women, presents a three week series on Nourishment
Posted by
Paul Kaufman
while you’re at it - talking to the selectmen - how about doing something about the "SLOW VILLAGE" signs on either end of town? There’s gotta be a nicer way to word it...
Posted by
Heather
Hi to everyone who reads this! I am currently looking for a housemate. We (my daughter and I)live in the in the apartment behind the Coltons on the corner of School and Main. It is a beautiful sunny apartment with wood floors, washer, nice neighbors, etc. If anyone is interested or knows someone who may be interested, please call us or pass this message along. Thank you
Posted by
Cathi Emery
There will be a Public Hearing on the Tentative FY'02 Budget at 7:00 p.m. on Tuesday, January 30, 2001. This public hearing will take place in the Turners Falls High School Lecture Hall.
Posted by
Cathi Emery
There will be a Budget Subcommittee meeting held on Wednesday, January 24, 2001 at 7:30 p.m. in the Superintendent's office, located at 35 Crocker Avenue in Turners Falls for anyone interested in attending.
Posted by
Chris Wise
It’s funny, my wife and I were talking yesterday about how some hand-made "Slow Down" signs would probably be very helpful. There’s a nasty bend in the road right next to our house that could use some sort of warning. I’d be happy to help in any way I can.
Posted by
Patricia
Hi,
Posted by
David Kaynor
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Mik
Posted by
Mik
The I HAVE A DREAM speach, in observance of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday. (requires Real Audio player)http://www.mlking-hs.org/stream/dream.ram I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation. Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity. But 100 years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languished in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. And so we've come here today to dramatize a shameful condition. In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men - yes, black men as well as white men - would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check that has come back marked "insufficient funds." But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. And so we've come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and security of justice. We have also come to his hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children. It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end but a beginning. Those who hoped that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges. But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force. The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom. We cannot walk alone. And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead. We cannot turn back. There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their selfhood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating "for whites only." We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no we are not satisfied and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream. I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. Some of you have come from areas where your quest for freedom left you battered by storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed. Let us not wallow in the valley of despair. I say to you today my friends - so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream. I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal." I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood. I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice. I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today. I have a dream that one day down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification - one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers. I have a dream today. I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together. This is our hope. This is the faith that I go back to the South with. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day. This will be the day, this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning "My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my father's died, land of the Pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring!" And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true. And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania. Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado. Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California. But not only that; let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia. Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee. Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi - from every mountainside. Let freedom ring. And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring - when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children - black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics - will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"
Posted by
Ingrid Bredenberg
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
Launch your 2001 Odyssey with Purpose, Power & Passion With deep appreciation for who you are and what you do, please be my guest at: PURPOSE, POWER & PASSION Saturday, January 20, 2001 8:30 am - 5:00 pm FREE! RSVP (413)367-2204 or innovate@lifeshaping.com by 1/18/01 Dear Friend, Happy New Year! May this new year...and new millennium...be a time of peace, abundance and meaningful connection for you. Because you are a leader and someone who contributes to others, I wish to provide you with a special time to realign with your life purpose, enhance your personal power and ignite your creative passion ....as a gift to you. Come join with other kindred spirits from this area who are also leaders in their fields. Together, we will clarify and support each others’ dreams. This is the first of three LifeShaping classes being offered. Information about all three programs are at the end of this note. For the past six years I have taught LifeShaping:Designing Extraordinary Futures at Omega Institute. In August I’ll be teaching at Omega’s yoga resort in Costa Rica. It’s thrilling for me to be able to share this work with my local community. While I look forward to sharing the full series with a group of people who want to gain the most from the program, you will be "launched" by attending just one or two classes. There is no obligation to do the whole series. Who would you like to share the day with? Please invite them and help us prepare for your participation by making your reservation by 1/15/01. Thanks to several sponsors we are able to share this first program for free. A donation will be collected to cover costs for food and materials. Whether or not you attend, you may forward this invitation and information on to anyone else you think would benefit from this work. Warmly, Ingrid Bredenberg Here’s the info about the series: *********************************** Peace yourself together with LIFESHAPING! a practical, fun, invigorating and sensual Saturday Series ...ignite your BODY WISDOM ...experience more JOY and PLEASURE ...discover your TRUE VOCATION ...connect with KINDRED SPIRITS Ingrid Bredenberg creativity and motivation muse and Maria Sariego life and transition coach are your guides as you explore... PURPOSE, POWER & PASSION Tap into a higher level of intuition and energy to achieve your dreams! Learn powerful techniques of creative visualization, prosperity, re-framing, and life-scripting to define and create a life of abundance and joy. Saturday, January 20 - FREE!! LOVE & MONEY Attract more prosperity and passion as you break through limiting beliefs and flow with life! Connect with your authentic power. Create a vibrant and compelling vision that energizes you ...making you irresistible to your good. Saturday, February 10 - $100* WORK & SOUL Break free from stifling work and discover the calling that invigorates you! Capitalize on your unique gifts and self-expression to create a career that prospers and enlivens you while contributing to others and the world. Saturday, March 10 - $100* *$15 discount for early registration (at least two weeks prior to class) All workshops are from 8:30 a.m -5:00 p.m. and include lunch Montague Grange, Montague Center, Massachusetts For more information or to register contact 413-367-2204 or innovate@ lifeshaping.com Make 2001 the best yet.... invest in yourself, gain valuable insights, information, materials, techniques, and contacts to put you on the path to your authentic life! Ingrid Bredenberg Human Resource Innovations PO Box 128 * Montague * MA 01351 Tel:(413) 367-2204 * Fax: (413) 367-2206 innovate@crocker.com">innovate@crocker.com * http://www.lifeshaping.com">http://www.lifeshaping.com
Posted by
Lucy Hemmendinger
Have you received a letter from WMECO regarding change of electric service and different options. Does anyone understand what this means? Are there alternative electric companies out there? How do you evaluate the difference between the set rate and the other rate? I would love to hear from someone who has the knowledge and inclination to analyze this.
Posted by
Jeanne Weintraub
I would like to go on record as a supporter of the proposed high school building project, and to urge everyone in Montague to stand behind the plan. I'm convinced the proposal has been well thoroughly researched and thought out, and that this needs to be a priority for our town.
Posted by
Cathi Emery
Schedule For Information Sessions And School Tours
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Cathi Emery
GREAT FALLS MIDDLE SCHOOL and TURNERS FALLS HIGH SCHOOL
BUILDING PROJECT SUMMARY INVESTING IN THE FUTURE: OUR CHILDREN AND OUR COMMUNITIES The Issue The middle/high school building has had no major renovations in 27 years and is deteriorating. Renovation is needed to bring the building up to state and federal codes, meet health and safety standards, maintain accreditation status, and preserve the investment made 27 years ago. The School Building Assistance (SBA) program, funded by the state, provides money for major renovations that result in an essentially ?new? building. The decision to pursue renovation rather than just repairs was made because the state will bear the major costs of renovation and additional construction. Even though the price of renovation will be higher than the cost of straight repairs, the proposed project will cost Gill-Montague Regional School District LESS money than straight repair with no improvements. Gill and Montague would bear the major costs of straight repair alone. History The issue of the need for repairs and new construction has been studied over the past four years by successive groups. · In September of 1997, the Education 2000 Committee, composed of parents, community members, teachers, administrators and town officials, made recommendations to the school committee regarding building needs. · In November of 1997, a building committee was formed to identify renovation and construction needs and commission a feasibility study. · In September of 1998, architects from the Mount Vernon Group completed a feasibility study focusing on the physical plant, educational needs, and demographic changes and drew up plans for a $35.3 million dollar project. · In October of 1999, Turners Falls High School underwent an accreditation visit from the New England Association of Schools and Colleges (NEASC). In June of 2000, the high school was put on warning status for the physical facilities and mandated to develop a plan to address issues of noncompliance. · In November of 1999, the Mount Vernon proposal was defeated at town meeting with a mandate to scale back the scope and cost of the project. · On November 29, 2000, the district was informed of the availability of additional state funding. Under new regulations it would qualify for a District Poverty Index of 14.17% to be added to the reimbursement rate of 64.26% for Montague and 63.63% for Gill. The Department of Education has indicated that the district would qualify for additional incentive percentage points which, added to the 78.32%, would conservatively result in a total district reimbursement rate of at least 80%. · In December of 2000, at town meetings of Gill and Montague, town meeting members voted to approve up to the sum of $1.87 million indebtedness ?for planning an addition and for planning the remodeling, reconstructing, and making extraordinary repairs to the Great Falls Middle School and Turners Falls High School.? Great Falls Middle School and Turners Falls High School Facts The building that houses Great Falls Middle School and Turners Falls High School was constructed 27 years ago. Since that time there has been no major upgrading of the facility. The building facility is no longer a source of pride for students or the community. The warning status assigned to Turners Falls High School by the New England Association of Schools and Colleges (NEASC) puts school accreditation in jeopardy. Major building problems · Heating, cooling, ventilation, and electrical systems do not meet code and pose health and safety risks. · Plumbing needs upgrading. · Building lacks handicapped accessibility and does not comply with federal law. · Space for science labs and computer technology does not meet state specifications; expansion needed. · Storage facilities throughout the building are inadequate posing security and confidentiality challenges. Financial Facts · State renovation project costs the towns less. · State will pay approximately $80 of every $100 spent on renovation. · Doing only needed repairs will cost the towns more since Gill and Montague will have to absorb the costs; repairs alone will not be state funded. · State law requires that both Gill and Montague approve the project. · State project will result in an essentially ?new? building able to support an instructional program preparing students well for future careers and life. · Improving the facility will bring the district into accreditation compliance. An accredited high school is a major investment and asset. Tax Impact of Debt Exclusion · New reimbursement rate favorable to Gill and Montague. Basic rate of 64% + 14.17 poverty index =78+%. Adding incentive points from the state results in a conservative reimbursement rate of 80+%. · BEFORE STATE REIMBURSEMENT District = Montague + Gill $1.87 million = $1.5 million + $321,000 · AFTER 80% REIMBURSEMENT District = Montague + Gill $373,685 = $309,299 + $64,385 Why Now Instead of Later? · Under the School Building Assistance (SBA) program, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts will pay 80+% of the total cost of the proposed plan to renovate the building. The state rate may change in future years. · Accreditation is at risk. High School was put on warning status in May of 2000. Report must be made to the New England Association of Schools and Colleges regarding steps taken to improve physical conditions of the school by January 2001. · Repairs have been put off for years. Essential repairs must be completed in near future.
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The Brick House
FOCUS ON FAMILIES IN MONTAGUE
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Michael Abbate
Free!! One old but works fine clothes dryer, white. It will be available as of Saturday morning for pickup.
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Tom Adams
"The Bookmill": A relaxing two minute video montage centered around one of Montague's most famous relaxation spots.
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Amy Bourbeau
The Montague Center School PTO and the Community School Council have embarked on improving the school library at Montague Center School. Our goal is to add 250 NEW TITLES to the school library by June 2001.
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kathleen burek
I was very interested to read all the newsy events in and around montague center. the meeting at the grange on wed 1/03 does need my opinion however. i definately believe in preserving the beautiful landscapes and rural pastures from big developers who wish to come by to build and build until there is no beauty in our lovely center! I have enjoyed the hills the valleys the streams of all seasons which gives one a sense of peace and tranquility. Please take my vote to preserve this all. from one who has lived on Taylor Hill since 1966!
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Mik
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Leslie & Arthur
We are looking for someone to look after our seven month old baby a couple of days a week in our home. If anyone knows of someone who might be interested, please let us know! Thanks!
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Mik
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Julia Ward
We are interested in learning Contra dancing, but don't know where to begin (literally).
Posted by
Rob
Can anyone out there recommend a local plow service. I've got to face the fact that I an indeed to lazy to shovel the driveway. Email me personally at: rhendry@admin.umass.edu
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kelly
im writing a paper for school about the bridges of montague center. I was wondering if anybody knows any info about when they are going to be fixed.
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Mik
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Jeanne Weintraub
As someone who is of partial Jewish heritage, I also am uncomfortable with displays which show baby Jesus & family in public settings. (nothing personal against Jesus, but I usually feel bombarded during December with images, sounds and messages which shout "Christian" and which seem to assume that everyone welcomes during this time of year) I think the church is a more appropriate home for the creche.
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Jan Hogan
Mik, Don’t worry about the duplicates, I think that you’ve done a great service with this site. It certainly generates a variety of topics and viewpoints. Thanks from Montague Parks & Recreation Dept. for allowing us our on listing of programs and events. We’ll be posting the Winter Carnival events for January 25-28, 2001 soon!
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Anne Flaherty
re creche debate. . . we are not a Christian family but I truly appreciate the history behind the nativity scene and I appreciate its exposure on the Montague Common. I do not believe in censorship of any kind. I believe it is the onus of the opposer to a public display of freedom of speech to counter what he or she finds unacceptable with his or her own free expressions of speech. What they did in Lexington was unAmerican and unconstitutional if you ask me. Besides, I thought that the American Veterans Association of Montague (what is its real name?) owned that land per some proposal that happened this past summer. I know they were the ones responsible for posting the new flagpole. What do they say about this?
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David Kaynor
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Bunni
Dear Montague Families,
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Cindy
Hi folks! I haven't posted here before, but it seems as though you hear from my husband often enough. Some of you may know me from the Community Partnership for Children and the Family Network, others from the Montague Center neighborhood, where I live with Mark and Isabella (and all those chickens! Come get eggs most any time!). I also belong to the Community Connections Coalition, which is meeting in Montague Center in January. The Coalition is a group of parents and providers of services to families that funds and creates activities to strengthen and support families in the town of Montague. It operates out of The Brick House where it is staffed by the very nice and capable Rachaelle Royer. The Coalition has been meeting in Turners Falls and is now rotating meetings among the five villages. Any residents, but especially Montague Center residents, are invited to attend this January meeting. If you want to bring issues about children and families to the meeting it wou!
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Mike Naughton
For the record, I'd like to correct a couple of my previous postings. First, on Nov 25 I gave some estimates of proposed Montague capital projects. Based on information I have received from the Town Accountant, it now seems that the town's share of the Carnegie Library project may be closer to $1.75M (not the $1.5M I said at the time) -- this is based on 50% reimbursement on a $3.5M project. Of course, there are many questions to be answered before this project moves forward to the point where a firm estimate is received (as there are, quite frankly, with all of the projects -- including the school projects -- that have been proposed so far).
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Mik
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Mike Naughton
I'd like to welcome Bob Newton to the discussion -- I've known him for close to a decade, and he has always impressed me as an intelligent, thoughtful person who isn't afraid to say what he thinks. Adding this to his experience, I think he has a lot to offer this forum, and I hope he'll continue to participate.
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THE LITTLE PINECONE COMPANY
Hello all Villagers! On Sunday when I purchased the book IMAGES OF AMERICA -- MONTAGUE at Carroll's, I called Peter S. Miller to let him know what a wonderful documentation they did on the extraordinary book. I told him we would be honored to have him personally do a book signing at THE LITTLE PINECONE COMPANY.I am happy to announce DECEMBER 17, SUNDAY from 1-3pm we will be featuring Mr. Miller for all to come have their books signed. I think they would make great holiday gifts for anyone.We invited everyone to come join us for this very special day and meet Peter Miller.The book may be purchased from Mr. Miller at the event or at Carroll's here in our village.We hope you can make it! Thanks again for all the support on all our events since we have opened in June and we hope everyone's holiday season is filled with laughter and love.See you in the Spring... The Healey's
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Bob Newton
I'd like to take this opportunity to expand on my speech made at the special Town Meeting Wednesday night.
Posted by
Robin Sherman
I want to thank Judy Brenner for taking the time to give me and others a tour of the middle school/high school and answer lots of questions. I also appreciate the information mailed to Town Meeting members.
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Jan Hogan
Looking for person to do horse drawn hayrides and any ideas suggestions for Winter Carnival 2001 january 25-28th sponsored by Montague Parks & Recreation Department. Anyone who might be interested in helping with the Winter Carnival; snowshoe, cross-country skiing, skating parties, sliding, hots, sweets and bake sale, craft sale, scavenger hunt, broomball game on ice, any ideas welcome, help definately welcome, we would like to have different events offered in each village over the four days and or nights, looking to the high school for snow sculpture contest and dance with king and queen of the carnival, let me know... thanks, jan
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Ed Golrick
Hello to all those people who don't like to/can't shovel/clear snow from thier driveways/walkways/whatever! My name is Ed Golrick, I am 14 y.o., live in millers and am available to do miscillaneous tasks that you might have that need to be done. so, if youre interested, please feel free to give me a call @ 659-9914 or email, ed_golrick@yahoo.com
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Leslie Lomasson
We miss our longhaired orange tiger cat,named Strawberry,who likes to hang out by the Mont. Ctr. elementary school woods. Is somebody feeding him and taking him in at nights? If you are, we'd like to ask you to please stop because he actually does have a home,and will come home if he doesn't have someplace else to go. If you know anything about where Strawberry is spending these cold evenings, please give Leslie or Ferd a call at 367-2373. Thanks.
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THE LITTLE PINECONE COMPANY
Hello all Villagers! I just wanted to comment on Peter S. Miller and Kyle J. Scott's beautiful book Images of America : Montague. It has beautiful photographs through out and shows all the villages dating back to the early 1900's. I picked up my copy at Carroll's and I will cherish it as we built our roots here and hope to someday be included in a book in a 100 years or so! LOL I give a salute to the wonderful writers and photographers who made it possible because I think it's wonderful.Check it out. Wow, a trolley car in Millers Falls. Now that must have been something to see! The Healey's
Posted by
Doug Dziadzio
I was happy to learn that the state reimbursement rates will increase by nearly the same amount we thought they would decrease if the high school/ middle school project weren?t grand fathered under the old guidelines by December 31st. I thank the continuing efforts of the schools to get more accurate and dependable information from the DOE and communicate this to the town. I also believe that now is the time to re-double our efforts to continue to move the planning process forward for this badly needed project. Hopefully in the discussions that follow, we will have many more answers to the questions this project raises for the town and the future of public education in Montague.
As a taxpayer, I want to better understand all the capital needs in town as well as the future department operating budgets to be better able to judge what their impact will be on the tax rate. Certainly, the Finance and Capital Improvement Committees, select board and School Committee can help to bring clearer estimates of these costs so we can make more informed choices. I think there is reason to be concerned that making a decision on a project this size will effect the ability to fund other capital and operating needs that may be equally important in the eyes of others in town and in the schools- or not. It would be refreshing to have more real facts to discuss versus assumptions and/or estimates. As a parent, I?m concerned that I still don?t understand as well as I?d like how this project fits into an overall vision of public education in Montague. A single project this size must have a negative impact on the operating, maintenance and staffing budgets that will have to be dealt with in the near future. We must be prepared for and willing to support the kind of funding needed to turn the educational vision of this facility and the other needs of the district into reality. I agree with Jeff, Mike and the School Committee that the time has come to raise the planning of this project to a higher level. It?s unrealistic to expect all the answers to the questions being asked will come from a $15,000 consulting contract. For example, after touring the high school/middle school and seeing the pictures in the Recorder I?ve wondered how the renovation could proceed without detail planning of where students are going to learn while this project is underway. What additional costs will there be to maintain high quality instruction for the students lucky enough to be in the middle of a construction project for a couple of years? Asbestos removal, soundproofing, plumbing and wiring improvements will be part of the work on the core building- what other things may lie behind walls that only a thorough engineering assessment can provide? We don?t have to look to far to see a case study in how the unexpected can result in significant project overruns. All these things and countless others point to the need to fund a more detailed plan. The Capital Improvements Committee voted to neither recommend nor deny support to the request for a $1.87 million dollar study. Why? Speaking as one member of the committee, I didn?t have enough information to know what the design study would provide or that described the time lines we?re under for the state application process. I couldn?t in good conscience recommend to town meeting we spend $1.87 million without knowing more about what we?re going to get for that investment. Perhaps the school committee can again work to provide greater detail (request for proposal for example) that would explain what we?re being asked to support with our tax dollars? I believe that the two-phase design process that?s been proposed seems to be quite practical based on my understanding of the facts and assumptions that have been presented. Remember, if we fund the design study and we don?t move forward with the project, Montague owns the entire cost of the study. I don?t think that stretching out the timelines on this process much further gets us anywhere and if reasonable answers can be arrived at town meeting I?d support quickly moving ahead with some form of the design study. I'd take care though, in moving ahead on a hope and a promise.
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Mike Naughton
I agree with Jeff Singleton that the new information regarding state reimbursement rate under the new version of the SBA is good news, and I think everyone who wants to see this project go forward in some form will welcome it. I also agree that while it may be natural to ask why we didn?t find this out sooner (I confess, that was my first reaction, when the Capital Improvements Committee was informed Thursday night), there seem to be good reasons for it. Rather than raise more questions, I think in the present situation it is more appropriate to simply be glad that we didn?t find out later than we did.
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Michael Abbate
Free!!!! One standard sized, clean, but not pretty refrigerator. Freezer on top. Would make a great second fridge. Available Sunday Morning (December 3rd), first come, first serve. Please call me if your interested.
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Jeff Singleton
For those who have not seen today's Greenfield Recorder, the high school building proposal to be submitted to Town Meeting on Wednesday has been changed significantly. Over the past week it has been discovered that the reimbursement under the new state building assistance law, to go into effect January 1, will be more, not less, than under the previous law. We will probably receive significantly more state aid under the new law than under the old one so we're not really under the gun to pass the $28 million proposal submitted by the building committee/school department.
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Mik
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Doug Dziadzio
I?ve read with great interest the ongoing dialog between Mike Naughton and Mike Langknecht on the proposed addition and renovation to the high school. I?ve been tempted to join the fray several times only to see the next posting address another facet of this proposal and cause me to pause and re-evaluate my own opinion of the project. I thank both for spending the time and energy to so thoughtfully and civilly debate the serious issues at stake for the future of our children and town.
I am a parent of two elementary age children, taxpayer, current chair of the Planning Board and newest member of the Capital Improvements Committee. I have more than just a passing interest in the affordability and quality of public education and the capital needs of the town as a whole. I recognize all to well the difficult choices that lie ahead in the prioritization of scarce resources to meet the many capital needs of the town and yet my sense is that there is little disagreement that we need to make some investment in the high school/middle school complex to provide a higher quality educational environment for the future. After touring the facility last night, I am convinced the need is real and encourage anyone who has an opportunity to do the same prior to town meeting. Being convinced of a need and supporting this specific proposal are two very different things. Quite frankly, I believe the school committee has been ineffective in educating the residents of Montague on the process used to arrive at the current proposal. I?ve been disturbed that they have been unable to provide a clear document that summarizes the work they?ve done connecting the programmatic needs of the curriculum to the current design , describe what other options were considered in the process, define the impact on the operating budget and provide a clear explanation of the state reimbursement percentages. I?ve had to attend three separate presentations by the school committee to gain some sense that these issues have been reasonably addressed. I think there is a lesson here for our educators in how to present their proposals in the future that I hope isn?t lost. At last nights meeting the school committee said that they would try to distribute and executive summary of the proposal and a copy of the plans to all town meeting meeting members prior to the 6th- I hope they are able to do so, and that town meeting members will take the time to carefully review this material. As a member of the Capital Improvements Committee on the other side of the fence, I?m struck by how the school proposal has helped the town move forward and do its own home work. This plan has been instrumental in accelerating a healthy debate on the prioritization of all capital projects in town that would benefit from the leadership and coordination of resources the select board can provide. Mike Naughton and the members of the finance committee are surely carrying a heavy burden these days. It seems to me that the financial arguments for the school proposal come down to our understanding of the state reimbursement rates and the confidence we have that the current information is accurate. Specifically, the potential loss of 9-10% of state reimbursement is one of the strongest arguments that the school committee has made to make a decision before the end of the year. Those who question the proposal want more time to fairly evaluate the project in it?s entirety and in context with the other capital needs of the town(count me as a member of this group up until very recently). If we wait until after the first of the year and lose the higher reimbursement rate(from 73% to 64%), by my crude calculations the scope of the project will have to be cut from $28,745,000 to $21,558,000 to maintain the same net cost to the Gill-Montague Regional School District of $7,761,000. With the reimbursement rates as they have been currently presented, we would have to cut over seven million dollars out of the current proposal before we begin to see a savings in the net cost to the school district. I?ve looked at the proposed design and can see some possibility to reduce costs, but no where near this amount. Given this financial reality, I think it would be prudent for the town and school system(perhaps with the assistance of a consultant well versed in the Byzantine process of state funding) to work cooperatively to quickly ascertain whether the financial presentation made by the school committee and architect are factual.
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Andrew Varnon
For those of you who don't know me, I'm the Montague-Gill-Erving reporter at The Recorder. I've been following with interest the postings on this site and I think kudos should go out to Michael Muller for setting up a place where discussions like this can happen.
Posted by
Hillary
A kitty showed up at our neighbor's door on Wednesday and we have taken him (we think!) in. We are quite happy to keep him but want to make sure no one in the community is missing a kitty and looking for him.
Posted by
Tamara Kaplan
We're looking for occasional babysitters for our two kids, ages 4 and 1 3/4. Please call or email if you are interested or have a referral.
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Mike Naughton
First, I'd like to thank Mike Langknecht for his recent postings. I've found them to be very interesting and informative, and I look forward to more.
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Mike Langknecht
Another quick installment in the school buildings saga...,
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Mike Naughton
Mike Langknecht said:
If I had meant to say that anyone who doesn't support the plan is an idiot, I'd have said that anyone who doesn't support the plan is an idiot. -- end quote -- Point taken, and I apologize. Mr. Langknecht never said that, and I was off-base in suggesting that he did. Again, I apologize. -- begin quote -- I would ask Mr Naughton to please enumerate in this space what the other capital projects are; how much they are projected to cost; and what, if any, priority has been assigned to them by the town or the cap imp committee or, if none has been assigned, to please weigh in with his own opinion on their relative priority. -- end quote -- The following is a list prepared by the Town Accountant for the Capital Improvements Committee (CIC) last year: Library ($1.5M ? half of $3M project to be reimbursed by the state) Police ($3M) Recreation ($1.5M) Highway Garage ($1.5M) Town Hall ($3M) TOTAL: $10.5M None of the projects other than the library is expected to qualify for any sort of grant or other reimbursement (although people are always on the lookout). In addition, the CIC has been told that a facility review will be proposed for the Waste Water Treatment Plant: this is expected to be brought to Town Meeting sometime next spring. The age of the plant and the change in its mission (it was designed for a high volume of papermill waste, but with the closing of Strathmore that volume is no longer coming through) make it likely that one or more projects will be suggested as a result of that review. I have no idea what those projects will be, but my guess is that their cost will be in the millions of dollars. There is also vocal support for developing a town swimming area, but again no project has been proposed and I have no idea of the cost. And there may be other projects that I?m not aware of (for example, developing an industrial park at the site of the former landfill). The CIC has not prioritized these projects ? my hope was that we would have a chance to do so after we finished preparing for the annual Town Meeting last May, but several factors (including resignations and some confusion as to who was actually on the committee) made that impossible. For a time the existence of the committee itself seemed in doubt. Happily (I think, for the town), that has been resolved: I think we have a strong committee this year, and I hope that it will see fit to tackle this important subject. My own opinion (since Mr. Langknecht asked) is that every area on that list (though I would probably make an exception for the town swimming facility) is of equal importance, since a healthy town requires all of them. Without having specific projects to judge, I don?t know which areas are more of a crisis than the others (if any), but I am convinced that they all have problems that need to be addressed. Before saying anything more, I would like to get some more information, and I intend to do what I can with the CIC to make that happen. Last year, I hoped that this process could begin with a town-wide discussion of how much people want to spend, and I thought that the appropriate leaders of this discussion would be the Select Board. Unfortunately, that board has been distracted by a number of (very important) issues since then, and that discussion has not taken place. I still believe it is a good place to start, and perhaps the CIC will take on the leadership role. begin quote ? We have taken great care to address all of the problems- physical and programatic- that face Montague's schools. -- end quote ? I wish that Mr. Langknecht (or anyone) had provided some written documentation back when this project was first being described that would back up that claim (not the part about taking great care ? I believe that Mr. Langknecht and his committee tried very hard ? but the part about addressing all of the problems). I don?t mean to be rude or obstructionist, and I am _not saying that I don?t believe it, but I?d like to see something that describes briefly what the problems are and then explains how the proposed project solves them. In essence, a kind of ?here?s where we are now, these are the problems we face, here is where this project will get us, and this is how those problems will be solved? document. It wouldn?t have to be long ? half a dozen pages or so, more or less ? and it could include the same sort of general plans for what we have that have been presented in the handouts for what we?ll get. Quite honestly, one of the problems I?ve had trying to understand this project (and the last one) is that most of this information is presented in oral form, and I find myself trying to listen and take notes at the same time. Different speakers also have different points of view, and a question like ?what is the main goal of this project?? seems to have different answers (is it to address the NEASC findings? is it to continue the process begun last year? is it to try to get some project ?on the list? under the current SBA program?) Having something to take home and study would have been very helpful during this whole process. Unfortunately, now is a little late in the game, and I will very likely be forced to make my decision based on the information that has already been made available. -- begin quote -- Last year, the Town Meeting rejected the first school improvement proposal as being to expensive. The scool committee defended the plan as being what they needed to provide the education that they wanted to be able to provide. The town said it was too much money. (The elementery school plan was never on the table, Mr Naughton is mistaken about this.) The school committee responded by making significant cuts in the program which resulted in a 20% reduction in the cost of the project. We didn't return with the same project somehow magically reduced in cost- we cut the program. And yet, Mr Naughton characterizes our efforts as an indication that the town's opinion "doesn't matter". -- end quote ? First, I don?t believe I ever characterized Mr. Langknecht?s efforts in that way. What I said was that I didn?t think that reducing the cost of the Middle School/High School project by 20% and taking the elementary schools out of the picture was very responsible, and I still don?t. Mr. Langknecht is correct that last year Town Meeting (and the Finance Committee) thought the plan was too expensive. But as I remember it, people also thought that it was too vague, and they were concerned that the elementary schools weren?t included. If by saying that they were ?never on the table? Mr. Langknecht means that they were not mentioned in the warrant article, he is correct; they were, however, discussed on Town Meeting floor, and the voters were assured that an elementary school plan would be forthcoming. I believe one of the reasons Town Meeting rejected the plan was that the voters wanted to see the the whole package. Now what is happening? Perhaps Mr. Langknecht can fill us in on the details. In particular, perhaps he can tell us if he believes the town will be asked to consider a proposal for the elementary schools within five years, and if so give us (if he?s comfortable) his best estimate of its cost. Perhaps members of the School Committee and the administration can share their thoughts as well. The message I got at the last CIC meeting (when this project was presented), was basically ?don?t worry about it -- it won?t happen any time soon?. Did I understand correctly? Additionally, perhaps Mr. Langknecht would be willing to provide some details on the ?significant cuts in the program? that resulted in the 20% cost reduction (these would be most helpful if they could be viewed in the context of the explanatory document I described earlier). Also, perhaps he could explain why a 20% reduction was sufficient to warrant re-consideration by Town Meeting, and why his committee didn?t instead decide to try to drum up more support for the original plan. I understand that an advisory committee was formed after the last vote to provide some guidance on these issues ? what were the results? I have heard privately from one member that a figure of $1.00 on the tax rate ? for all school projects ? was mentioned, but I?d appreciate a more ?official? account of what happened with that committee and what the results were. ? begin quote ? We're supposed to live in fiscal fear. . .The NEASC report that he cites as further proof of the districts ineptitude describes an urgent problem that is prevalent accross the commonwealth. . . The Gill-Montague Regional School district isn't alone in this dillema. . the town hasn't had the money- or been willing to budget the money- necessary to fix it. That was the finding in the NEASC report. . .Holding th school committee up as a bunch of irresponsible fiscal adolescents . . . -- end quote ? I?ve left a lot out, and I?ll just let everyone judge for themselves whether Mr. Langknecht has accurately characterized my comments (I believe he has not). There are a couple of points I would like to make here, though. First, I would like Mr. Langknecht to document his assertion that ?the finding of the NEASC report? is that ?the town hasn?t had the money ? or been willing to budget the money ? necessary? to fix the maintenance problem. I have looked in the ?Financial Support? section of the ?Report of the Visiting Committee? (pp. 46-48), and I don?t see that anywhere. Instead, I find statements such as ?Currently the two towns . . . rank in the lower half of the state in their ability to pay. . . yet continue to allocate amounts exceeding state averages?; ?The community, school committee, administration, and faculty have worked to secure an adequate and dependable source of revenue. . .?; and ?Both communities support education and take pride in the school?s accomplishments?. The closest I found to Mr. Langknecht?s charge is the statement, ?. . . there are some problems. For example, the two communities differ in their ability to pay. . .?. The ?Commendations? section lists ?1. The commnunity support for financial support above state required minimum contribution?, while the ?Recommendations? section does not mention financial support from the towns. I have also checked my copy of the NEASC accreditation letter, where I found the following paragraph: ?. . . the Commission was troubled by the fact that the lack of an adequate level of financial support for technology and for the facility has adversely impacted the school. In particular the Commission cited the need to update classroom furniture, instructional equipment, library media resources and technology, and to repair and maintain equipment.? It is unclear to me from the context whether the ?lack of financial support? was attributed by the Commission to the towns or to the District?s budgetary process (both answers seem possible), but again the recommendations do not mention the need to change or increase town funding. (note: I do not have a complete copy of this letter, as Judy Brenner did not feel comfortable sharing parts of it, but according to her notes the ?recommendations? list is complete.) I will stand corrected if someone can provide better information ? perhaps Mr. Langknecht can be helpful in that process. The larger point I would like to make, though, is that I agree completely with Mr. Langknecht that deferred and neglected maintenance is a statewide problem, and that it affects all aspects of municipal life. I did NOT call the School Committee irresponsible for having participated in this ? what I said, was that I think it would be irresponsible to continue doing so: certainly, without at least discussing the possibility of doing better. Does Mr. Langknecht disagree with that? What I (and I think others) am saying is that doing better will cost money, and since there is only a limited amount of money available (without a Prop 2 ½ override it amounts to roughly $300,000 total for Montague for the entire town budget) it will be difficult to impossible within the current budget limits. I think it might very well be possible to gather support for an override and/or cuts in other town (or school) services to fund this, but only if we can come up with a plan that really makes sense and really looks as if it will solve the problem. I could very well be wrong, but I think it?s worth a try. I also think that it is the only responsible way to proceed. However, I don?t think it will happen by December 6, and I do think that voting in this school plan will close off a lot of options.
Posted by
Mike Naughton
For those interested, the Montague Finance Committee will meet this Wednesday (11/29) at 6:45 pm, and the Capital Improvements Commitee will meet Thursday (11/30) at 7:00 pm. Both meetings will be in Town Hall, and I expect both committees will have the upcoming Special Town Meeting warrant (which includes the library and school proposals)on their agendas. Both are open public meetings (as always), and as such the public is welcome to attend.
Posted by
Mike Langknecht
Thank you, Mr Naughton, for continuing the discussion. I'm sure it's the cranberry sauce talking- but I'm genuinely thankful to live in a community where a person can make a direct contribution to the process, where issues are hashed out and decided by the members of the community and not a nameless, faceless beaurocracy.
Cheers! And so I shall endeavor to respond to the questions at hand: The Building committee voted (8 to 6 with some abstentions and absences) on a plan for the elementary schools and sent it on to the school committee. The plan was essentially tabled until town meeting acted on the High School plan and when the High School plan was rejected (and because of the fashion in which it was rejected) the elementary plan was shelved. It was technically flawed, anyway, since it didn't enjoy the kind of broad community support that the SBAB requires and that everyone on both committees knew it needed in order to pass town meeting. In other words, while the vote did discharge the building committee's duty, it didn't result in an accepted remedy for the elementary schools' facilities issues. At present, there is no building committee studying the elementary question. There are very many highly concerned community members who are as eager as ever to see a solution to the existing problems with the primary facilities and who will probably continue to push for one. There area very many highly concerned community members who believe that the non-facility related factors in the elementary question are too volatile to be constructively remedied at present or in the near future. And, of course, there are those volatile issues: they have eluded resolution for many more than just the last three years and- judging from the last committee vote- are not particularly close to resolution now. So, while I am loathe to give up hope for an elementary solution, there is little chance of one any time soon. Suffice to say that there will have to be a significant change in the social and economic environments before an elementary solution can happen. I can't unequivically state that there will be no project because that isn't any one person's - or committee's- decision. The Advisory Committee never became a cohesive, functioning body. The One dollar on a thousand figure was offered by one of the members, but the same member also offered the opinion that if the financing schedules had been presented differently and the benefits of the program better communicated (sound familiar?) that the plan might have been accepted as is. And there were participants who felt that the original plan should be defended and resubmitted. In the end, there never were any official decisions or recomendations from the group: the many conflicting demands on the time and energy of the participants posed significant logistical obstacles which were only complicated by the change in superintendency. But, perhaps the most significant reason that the advisory committee didn't pan out- and, consequently, why the original plan was scaled back- was that the School Committee (I believe) percieved the Town Meeting vote as a singularly clear mandate to reduce the cost of the building program. While the original plan wasn't conceived as the "ideal school", there was a certain amount of idealism in its' conceptualization. There was a strong sentiment on the committee that the public receive as much direct benefit as possible from this investment and there was a very strong sentiment to maximize the return on the dollar and the efficiency of the space. That was our test for economic efficiency. We were, after all, trying to improve our schools as best we could. That standard proved to be too expensive, so the decision was made to go for the most cost effective distance between two points. Both perspectives represent legitimate forms of economization. I apologize, but I must sign off for now. To be continued... Mike Langknecht Montague, MA
Posted by
Mike Langknecht
If I had meant to say that anyone who doesn't support the plan is an idiot, I'd have said that anyone who doesn't support the plan is an idiot. What meant- and what I believe I said- is that there needs to be open honest discussion- not a lot of insinuation and innuendo. To that end, I would ask Mr Naughton to please enumerate in this space what the other capital projects are; how much they are projected to cost; and what, if any, priority has been assigned to them by the town or the cap imp committee or, if none has been assigned, to please weigh in with his own opinion on their relative priority. He has made the statement that this discussion needs to take place before a decision on the school project can be made but as yet he has been reluctant to actually have the discussion. This is the source of my "Red Herring" complaint. As I understand it, a red herring is an issue that is raised as a subterfuge or diversion from the actual issue and, in my opinion, if you raise the spector of an issue but then refuse to deal with the substance of the issue, that's a subterfuge. Similarly, I would say that distorting statements for the purpose of emotionalizing an issue i.e. suggesting that my message is that "either you support the issue or your an irresponsible idiot..." is similarly intended to cloud the matter- not to clarify it.
Am I passionate about the issue? Yes. Am I the sort of person who tries to force his opinion or agenda on others? Am I the sort of person who twists and distorts issues to try and bully others into consensus on an issue? I urge you to speak to anyone who served on the committee whether they felt that their opinions were heard or not; whether they felt that they were allowed to participate in the debate. I don't know what meetings Mr. Naughton attended but I've never heard anyone dismised by telling them that their question was "not important". I do remember people being told that the issues they raised would be "taken care of" in the new plan. What possible objection can there be to that? "Yes, that very important issue will be addressed by this plan". How is that objectionable? We have taken great care to address all of the problems- physical and programatic- that face Montague's schools. Last year, the Town Meeting rejected the first school improvement proposal as being to expensive. The scool committee defended the plan as being what they needed to provide the education that they wanted to be able to provide. The town said it was too much money. (The elementery school plan was never on the table, Mr Naughton is mistaken about this.) The school committee responded by making significant cuts in the program which resulted in a 20% reduction in the cost of the project. We didn't return with the same project somehow magically reduced in cost- we cut the program. And yet, Mr Naughton characterizes our efforts as an indication that the town's opinion "doesn't matter". How inflamatory is that? Is this the intelligent discussion he means to promote? Or is it the one about how the School Department has led us to this horrible state of disrepair, maybe that's the objective discussion to which he refers. We're supposed to live in fiscal fear of how our new school will be at the end of its' useful life at the end of five years because of the school departments refusal to take responsible care of its' equipment. And the evidence of this irresponsible attitude is the awful state of the thirty year old equipment that the schools are making due with to this day. When was it that the district bought that "bunch of new stuff" he refers to? Is he refering to 1972? The NEASC report that he cites as further proof of the districts ineptitude describes an urgent problem that is prevalent accross the commonwealth: deferred maintanence is destroying our infrastructure. Whether it's schools or roads and bridges- deferred maintanence is destroying our infrastructure. The Gill-Montague Regional School district isn't alone in this dillema, it is a constant across the board. As local budgets tightened, as state mandated programs increased, as the demand for municipal services rose, the first thing to go was maintanence. Mahar, Pioneer, Frontier: they all had the problem, are they all a bunch of irresponsible spendthrifts? This is another subterfuge, ladies and gentlemen and I'll tell you why. The cost of repairing and restoring and re-equiping our High School/ Middle School has been estimated at 13 million dollars. This represents a THIRTY YEAR deficiency in maintanence and repair. The current school committee inherited this problem. Why didn't it fix the problem? Because the town hasn't had the money- or been willing to budget the money- necessary to fix it. That was the finding in the NEASC report, that there hasn't been sufficient economic support in our district. Holding th school committee up as a bunch of irresponsible fiscal adolescents who just want to go out and buy a lot of new stuff so that they can just ignore the problem and hope it goes away or solves itself is a gross distortion of the facts. Even if it wasn't, how does it contribute to the debate on our facilities? If you don't trust the school committee, then do something about the school committee! I apologize if my comments have seemed- or if they have been- insulting or demeaning. I needed the opportunity to express my feelings on complexion of this discussion. I will obstain from any further exposition on that side of the issue. Future postings will address factual issues- or reasonable facsimilies therof- only. I urge the other participants in the debate to do the same (once they have had the opportunity to vent their own spleens, of course). Gobble, Gobble Mike Langknecht Montague, MA
Posted by
Mike Naughton
I'm sorry that Mike Langknecht seems to believe that this discussion has not been "open and honest". I think he and I disagree, and I've tried to be as open and honest about it as I can. I believe this is a complicated issue, and sometimes it is difficult to make statements that are accurate, complete, and clear (at least for me). I get the impression that Mike doesn't think it's complicated at all -- either you support education or you don't, and if you do then you support this project. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's that simple.
The bottom line, for me, is that I think there is a limit to the amount of money that Montague can afford to spend on all of its needs, including the school, and that the town needs to set priorities within that limit. I don't think that that limit can be objectively defined -- I think it is partly a matter of opinion -- and I also think that there is no clear consensus on exactly where it is. As a voter, Town Meeting member, Capital Improvements Committee member, and Finance Committee member, however, I believe I have an obligation to form an opinion on where I think that limit should be, and then be guided by that opinion. To do any less would be (I believe) irresponsible. Right now, the limit for capital expenditures (borrowing) for me is somewhere in the range of $10M - $15M, and I will be happy to explain how I got there to anyone who is interested. But I think reasonable people can disagree on this issue, and I am _not_ saying that I think mine is the only right answer -- just that, right now, it's right for me. What I tried to express in my last posting was that the unanswered questions surrounding the needs of the elementary schools and likely increased operating expenses of the middle school/high school make the proposed project problematic for me. Given the limits that I believe exist on Montague's ability to fund projects of any sort, I am extremely reluctant to move ahead with something that problematic and with that kind of a price tag. Mike seems to feel that my attitude is irresponsible, unreasonable, inconsistent, short-sighted, and perhaps underhanded; I believe that it is simply prudent. I guess we have a disagreement on that point. I understand very well that the schools' failure (and I believe it is the schools' failure, and not the towns') to "furnish the items necessary for a quality education" is the reason we are where we are now -- it's a major theme of the NEASC report, and it's a major aspect of this proposed project. But the proposed project offers only a one-time fix: "We'll buy a bunch of new stuff, and then we'll be okay". My personal opinion: that is so incredibly short-sighted that I'm amazed anyone would take it seriously. The meeting last night with the School Committee convinced me that there has been _zero_ consideration given to actually solving this problem in any meaningful way (by which I mean having an ongoing commitment to keeping current). Instead, the commitee seems to be hoping that going ahead with this project will postpone the need to find a solution until a few years down the road. If there's some aspect of this plan that contradicts that, please enlighten me! Otherwise, excuse me for thinking, "We've already tried that. Didn't work. Let's not go there again." Right now, I think that $7M is an awful lot of money to spend on a plan that has such major holes. I'm also surprised and disappointed that the proponents of this plan seem to think that these issues are irrelevant "red herrings". I'm also surprised and disappointed that they haven't reacted more constructively and creatively in the year since the last project was so decisively defeated. I think the town sent them a pretty clear message: the project is way too expensive; and from what I can tell they are acting as if that just doesn't matter. Coming back with half last year's project off in limbo (the elementary schools) and the other half scaled back by 20% (after they assured us on Town Meeting floor that this would be impossible) isn't (in my opinion) very responsible. Mike is clearly very emotional about this project -- I don't blame him, and I think that stands out in his postings. But their main message to me is, "Either you support this project or you're an irresponsible idiot -- or if you're not an idiot, you must have some other agenda". Personally, I don't think that promotes intelligent discussion. Several people have raised issues and voiced concerns, but the only answers I've seen have boiled down to "that'll be taken care of", or "that's not important". I'd like to ask Mike specifically if he thinks there is a limit to what the town can spend, and if so what it is, and how the various priorities should be set. If not, I'd appreciate a brief explanation as to why not. I'd also like to know if he believes that the need to keep our educational facilities current will requre ongoing expenditures, and if he does then where the money for those expenditures will come from. In particular, I'm curious if (and how) he thinks the future will be different from the past, when the schools have (by their own admission) chosen funding for those areas as among the first to be eliminated. I'd like to close by repeating something I said earlier: personally, I don't think I have to convince anyone of anything -- my only obligation is to be able to explain the votes that I cast. I think if someone (anyone) wants me to vote in favor of having the town spend $7M, they have to convince me it's a darned good idea, and if they're the ones who are going to be spending the money then I also have to be convinced that they are up to the job (if you wonder why, just look across the river. . . ). I very much appreciate this forum to express my opinions and voice my concerns, and I think it can be a valuable tool for give and take on this (and other) issues. But (call me a stubborn old coot) telling me that I'm unreasonable and accusing me of having ulterior motives doesn't do much to win me over. . . . Hey -- look on the bright side: maybe you don't need me! ;-)
Posted by
Mike Langknecht
I take the greatest exception to the suggestion that this project isn't being sold on its' merits. This project has been the works for three years and was coming to town meeting Before the NEASC report was issued and BEFORE there was any change in the reimbursement rates. The suggestion that this is some sort of "railroading"
Posted by
Damien Weaver
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Posted by
Mike Naughton
I agree very much with Jeff Singleton's opinion that we need to be aware (as much as possible) of the consequences of proceeding with one particular option -- whether it's the MS/HS renovation, or some other project. I also feel that some very important issues are not being fully addressed in this case, and that failure to give them due consideration now may lead to some nasty surprises down the road.
One very certainly is the effect on a K-6 project. Personally, I feel that the total amount of debt that the town of Montague can reasonably affort is somewhere in the neighborhood of $10M to $15M. This figure is based on some facts and some assumptions, and others may come up with other figures, but I encourage everyone reading this to form an opinion that they can defend. Right now, the town has about $3M worth of debt, and obviously adding $7M for the MS/HS would get us up to $10M. If the figures for K-6 are accurate, a $20M project with 75% re-imbursement and Montague taking an 85% share (all rough figures) would add something over $4M to this total. That would leave virtually _nothing_ for anything else: not the library, not a community swimming facility, not the police station, town hall, or highway department -- nothing. For what it's worth, I'm on the Capital Improvements Committee, and last year we were presented with a rough list of projects affecting most of these areas that totalled somewhere between $12M and $15M. Personally, I don't think it would be responsible to ignore these other needs, and I feel even more strongly that we ought to have some discussion of these issues before we close too many doors. I am very sorry that so far this discussion has only barely begun to take place. I also agree that teachers' salaries may become an important issue in the future, and the district (funded by the towns) may be forced to confront having to make significant increases in this area (and that is by far the largest area of the schools' budgets). But I would go further and lump this into the general area of "ongoing expenses", and I would include keeping up to date with things like computer equipment, media and other resources, textbooks, school supplies, furnishings, etc. The proposed project includes significant sums for upgrading these areas, but there is no discussion of what the ongoing costs will be -- five years down the road, the computer equipment will be obsolete, and much of the rest may be at or near the end of its useful life (how much, I have no idea, since there is no way to tell from the handouts exactly what we are talking about). As the NEASC report makes clear, the schools have not been able to keep current on the equipment and furnishings they have now, and school officials are on record as saying that when money is tight these are among the first items to go. It looks to me as if it might take a significant increase in the yearly expenses to do better in the future, but no one has mentioned this. Again, the town can only afford so much without cutting other services -- use any phrase you want, but the pie is only so big, and giving more to one area has to mean taking away from others. I think we are facing the very real possibility that we will build a brand new school and a few years down the road face the reality that we can't afford to furnish it with the items that are necessary to provide a quality education. I think this is a very scary prospect, and it makes me nervous about going ahead with this project by taking the attitude that "we'll figure it out when we get there". IMHO, this project is not being sold on its merits -- it is being sold with "we gotta do something, and time is running out for 75% reimbursement". In my own experience, I have almost always regretted taking deals like that, and I don't see any reason to believe that this will be different. I wish I felt otherwise, but that is what my gut tells me right now. Just my personal opinion, fwiw.
Posted by
Jeff Singleton
Re H.S. Renovation and other town priorities issue:
I agree with Mike Langknecht that general references to all the capital improvements we need to spend money on and what the town "can afford" have "the unintended result of throwing a smokescrean over the whole process." But I wouldn't go so far as to say Robin's concerns are necessarily a "red herring" for people who don't want to think hard about the need for a high school renovation. For example, it is quite clear that the expense of the High School renovation could affect the future of the K through 6 schools and what we are paying our teachers. These are crucial questions involving priorities and fundamental educational philosophy. Yes, there is a danger in pitting one service or group against another but there is also the danger of making crucial decisions about the future of public education in this town without admitting we are doing it. This is one of the reasons why the emphasis on the NEASC report is a bit disturbing. Of course the high school should not wait for the resolution of every fiscal and philosophical problem, but we need to go into this process with our eyes open. The issue of the K through 6 schools, which Mike discussed well, is not "irrelevant." Already we are hearing talk of delaying the K through 6 renovation for five years or even abandoning it altogether. There is also the possibility that the cost of the high school renovation could encourage the town to nickel and dime the K through 6 renovation, if and when it occurs. In other words, decisions on the high school have clear impacts which we should not ignore. Let's be clear on the fiscal ramifications of this process. The building committee divided on the configuration of the K through 6 schools but virtually the entire committee voted for one of the proposals, the total cost ranging from $20 to $23 million. Although I do not have the exact figures in front of me, I remember the average annual impact of this, not including the up-front cost problem, as somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.20 per $1,000. The most recent high school estimates which Chris Martin handed out last night (again not in front of me) varied from $1.50 to $2.00 per $1,000, depending on which financng method is chosen and the year. Thus we are talking about a total impact of the two proposals ranging from $2.50 to $3.00/$1,000, depending on a variety of factors (Again, pleae correct these figures if they are wrong but I'l bet they are in the ballpark). There are also ramifications involving fundamental educational philosophies. I see a potential bias in the current proposal in favor of new buildings at the expense of quality small schools. That is to say, by leading with an expensive high school renovation we may inexorably produce fiscal pressures which lead to school consolidation at the K though 6 level. In my view, this is precisely the trend of the past thirty years which all the reasearch in the field and the choices parents are making are rejecting. I do not want to revisit the K through 6 debate and drag down the high school renovation. I also respect those who disagree with me on these issues I believe it is wrong to present a plan which reflects a certain bias and which could well influence the course of this good debate without admitting we are doing it. One way to resolve this problem is to set a clearer timetable for discussion /resolution of the K through 6 issue and to take Montague Center School off the table until that discssion is resolved. I think we confront a similar problem with the issue of teachers' salaries. At last night's Finance Committee meeting there was an excellent and productive discussion of the budget process and the fiscal problems confronting the school department. I came away from that meeting with the sense that there was a formidable, permanent gap between the needs of the school department, in large measure forced on them by factors beyond their control, and the ability of the town to pay based on the Prop. 2.5 revenue limit. At the same time, we cannot compete for quality teachers unless we offer competitive salaries. Will the cost of the high school renovation make this problem impossible to solve? Is the tradeoff here new buildings for quality teachers? I don't think asking those who favor a high school renovation to respond to these questions is pitting one service against another. Nor am I asking for the perfect, final answer before I vote for the renovation. But I also feel we need to know that these questions have been thought through so we can avoid making crucial policy decisions without realizing what we are doing it.
Posted by
David Kaynor
Posted by
Roma Hansis
The Gill-Montague Regional School Committee would like to invite all members of municipal committees from both Gill and Montague, including Boards of Selectpersons, Finance Committees, and town meeting members, to attend a meeting to discuss the building renovation project at the Turners Falls High School/Great Falls Middle School complex.
Posted by
Mike Naughton
My personal opinion is that there is very little disagreement that "something" needs to be done. The real question is "what", and how much the town can afford to spend in this area. I think that $7M (Montague's share) is a lot of money, and the proponents of this project need to convince the voters that all of this money is necessary and that it will be well-spent. I also think that the credibility of school officials is an important factor here, and it will behoove the proponents to be as clear, complete, and accurate as possible in their presentations.
Posted by
Mike Naughton
I'm glad that this discussion seems to have gotten going, and I'd like to thank Jeanne Weintraub, Jeff Singleton, and Robin Sherman for raising some good questions. I'd also like to thank Mike Langknecht for taking the time to provide some answers, and Roma Hansis and Judy Brenner for providing some additional background information. For those who don?t know, I?m on the Montague Finance Committee and the Capital Improvements Committee, and I?ve been a Town Meeting member since 1998, but my comments on this forum are my own personal ones and do not necessarily represent anyone else?s.
I'd like to follow up on Mike's analogy of two broken cars, though, because I think it may help illustrate some of the differences people have in approaching this issue. ** First, what do we mean by "break down"? How bad is it? Will the cars continue to function, at least for a little while, or is that not an option? ** Assuming we agree that there really is a problem, what's the appropriate fix? Do we just patch together what we can to keep going, or do we do a major overhaul -- or even buy a new car? Most families make those decisions based on economics and other competing priorities (the washing machine broke, too, and there's a leak in the roof). For most of us, there's only so much money to go around, and we sometimes make less-than-ideal choices simply because we can't afford to do any better. (In fairness, I don?t think that raising the issue of competing priorities is a ?red herring? ? it is simply the reality that the town finds itself facing. IMHO, we won?t find ?satisfactory and appropriate solutions to all our town?s capital challenges? without recognizing this.) ** Finally (and in my opinion this is extremely important), are there lessons we can learn for the future? Did one of our cars blow an engine from overheating because we ignored a leak in the radiator? Did we shorten its life by letting it rust out prematurely? If for some reason we didn?t get the expected useful life out of this car, are there things we can do to try to do better with the next one? I hate to say it, but there are a lot of people in town who feel that the schools have a habit of crying wolf every time they don't get what they want, and that doesn't help when there actually is a problem. Remember, when this came up last year, Roma, Mike, and others spoke eloquently about they problems being faced and the need to move ahead with a solution. Despite that, the Finance Committee voted unanimously (with one abstention) not to recommend the project, and it was voted down overwhelmingly on Town Meeting floor. Whatever else this means, I think it indicates that there is a credibility issue when the schools talk about their problems, and I think one good way to address this is for the proponents of this project to provide clear and detailed documentation backing up their claims (I think that?s what Jeff is asking for). I think it?s a good start that Judy Brenner has posted excerpts from the NEASC letter here on the cork board and on her web site, but I would encourage everyone who?s interested in this issue to read the entire letter, and also the NEASC ?Report of the Visiting Committee?. The latter is a 61-page document, but I wouldn?t be scared ? it?s actually a fairly easy read (if you can get past the fact that no one seems to have proof-read it ? but that?s another issue!), and it provides a load of interesting information. If you want to see what the NEASC really thought, and how the facilities issue fits into their overall assessment of the school, you should read these documents. I won?t attempt to summarize them, but I will mention one item because I personally think it is quite relevant to this discussion. Both documents cite a concern about the neglect of regular maintenance of the facility and its equipment and furnishings, and the report indicates that this neglect may be a factor in the current condition of those things that need to be replaced. I know that this has been an ongoing concern of Town Meeting ? at the first one I attended as a member, in May 1998, there was a lengthy discussion about the need for the schools to do a better job in this area. The precipitating issue was the need to appropriate monies to fix the track, but a number of other examples were cited going back to past years. It was the clear feeling of many members that the schools have a pattern of not taking proper care of things and then coming to the towns when they?ve broken beyond repair, and I must say my reading of the NEASC documents seems to provide weight to this opinion. I think this issue, among others, needs to be put on the table and addressed face-on. I?m not saying that all of the problems were caused by this neglect, or that we shouldn?t go ahead and fix the ones that were. What I am saying is that I personally am reluctant to put a lot of money into renovating a facility without getting some kind of assurance that it will be taken care of. There?s a lot more I could say, but this post is already way too long. But don?t take my word for it ? read the NEASC documents and decide for yourself.
Posted by
Mike Naughton
For those interested, the Capital Improvements Committee will be meeting with representatives of the school to discuss the proposed building project this Tuesday (November 14) at 7:45 pm in Town Hall (the library is up first at 7:00). I think we're allowing an hour or so for the discussion, which is not a lot of time, but we'll all do what we can to clarify these issues.
Posted by
Mike Langknecht
That brings up a great point: If anyone has questions or doubts about the committees determination that we need to do something about our school buildings, please arrange with the school department to take a first hand look!
Posted by
Mike Langknecht
In response to Robin's remarks about the town's many capital improvement needs:(personal response, not meant to reflect the views or opinions of the committee or its' members)
Posted by
Mike Langknecht
Hey, nobody told me there qwas a building committee cyber-meeting!!
But seriously folks, I am writing in response to the recent cork board postings. First, in response to the letter from Jeanne Weintraub: Hi Jeanne! 1. There aren't 2 cost estimates for renovating the High School/Middle School. The second set of figures is a total of the estimated costs of addressing the NEASC issues and those repairs etc., that have been identified as #1 or #2 priorities- meaning that they will have to be addressed within the next 5 years or so. 2. This approach to the problem would not be reimbursed by the state because it would not result in a "like new facility" which is the test that a project must meet. It would result in a facility with a lot of band-aids- which is what we have now (except that they'd be much nicer band-aids). It's not even clear that such a solution is possible since the NEASC evaluation requires that we address the privacy, noise and climate control issues which means creating individual classrooms and adding classrooms. So, we don't have two plans: we have one "plan" and an estimate of what a "fix only what we have to" strategy would cost (if it were even possible). 3. What we get from the new construction that we couldn't get through renovation alone is additional educational space. While the gross square footage of the High School is adequate, there is a tremendous amount of inefficient space, like the worlds largest lockerrooms, for instance (and don't even think about suggesting putting classrooms down there!). There are also factors that would make renovation prohibitively expensive- more expensive than new construction- like retro-fitting science labs. Much cheaper to build new in those situations. 4. The NEASC wants to know what our plan of action is November,2000. They are prepaired to be reasonable about the time it takes to impliment the plan, but they want to know what the plan is ASAP. 5. The best answer I can offer about the impact of the cost of the High Scool plan on the elementary plan is that it is irrelevant. Imagine that you are a two income family. One spouse works in Brattleboro and one works in Hartford. The 2 family cars break down- expensively- on the same day. You can't afford to fix either of them, let alone both. But if you don't fix BOTH of them, you won't be able to afford food. It isn't fare, it isn't pretty, it isn't fun, but you're stuck with it. So are we. We can't pit one project against the other. We can't pass the buck. We can only persevere. 6. (I know there were only 5 points, but I owe Jeanne a phone call on a related issue...) The elementary question-which must be pursued with undiminished zeal- is still an open question. It is true that the building committee approved and submitted an elementary school plan that called for the renovation/expansion of the Montague Center School. This plan was tabled by the School Committee subsequent to the presentation of the first High School/Middle School plan. (I don't think it was ever accepted by the committee, officially) The School Committee is not obligated to accept our recommendation. The Scool Committee has the right to reject our plan and tell us to try again. They probably have the right to change their minds if they want to. We are a recommending body only. Our decisions are/were not binding on the Committee -or the community at large, for that matter. In addition, the SBAB (they give out building money) requires that a plan have the vigorous support of the community as a whole: our vote on the plan was 8 to 6 with 2 abstentions and a number of absences. In other words, our vote was every bit as decisive as the 2000 Presidential election. What I'm saying is, the elementary question is still open. I recommend that anyone with strong feelings about the matter should press for continued action on the question.
Posted by
Robin Sherman
I think that Jeff and Jeanne raise some important issues. I agree that education is critical and all of our school facilities are important.
Posted by
Jeff Singleton
Thanks to Mike Naughton, Judith Brenner, Roma Hansis and
Jeanne Weintraub for kicking off the discussion on the High School/Middle School construction proposal. I would also like to thank the members of the building committee who have spent long hours working on this issue, so crucial to the future of the town. I think the prospect of making a major investment in our kids and our future is exciting. Yes, there will be some painful tax increases (no matter what we decide to do) and the cost estimates should concern everyone, especially in light of the budget crisis last spring. But this is also an opportunity to have a major impact not only on a whole generation of young women and men; not only on the quality of life in Montague as a whole; but on one of the central issues in the United States at the turn of the century - education. We don't often get this opportunity. Let's try to keep this in mind as we raise questions about the proposal before us. Having said this, I think the questions raised by Mike Naughton (re the new state building assistance law) and Jeanne Weintraub (re the "cost comparison" handed out at Town Meeting) need to be answered. In general, I think there needs to be a more compelling written rationale for this particular proposal. If a business was making a $28 million investment or an agency was appyling for a $28 million grant, there would be a brief but detailed discussion of why this was being done and why the particular proposal was a good one.There would be a "narrative" explaining the plans and the numbers. I know this is a lot of work for a volunteer committee, but I think it needs to be done so we understand the rationale for this particular plan!!! A few other points to consider: * I would be very interested in hearing from some teachers and students, particularly from the high school/middle school, on this issue. *Is it not true that this whole process started well before the NEASC evaluation? I agree with Judith Brenner that we should take the evaluation very seriously, but it is not really the reason for the $28 million proposal before us or a rationle for any particular plan. *What will the tax impacts of this proposal be, short and long term? *If we agree that a K through 6 project also needs to be done, what is the projected total tax impact of both proposals? Re the last point, which Jeanne also raised. I understand that the K through 6 issue was set aside due to sharp divisions over the configuration of the schools and the need to get going on the high school, about which there was more agreement on the building committee. This makes sense. But it is also true that the K-6 debate was not about money; that almost everyone on the building committee in fact voted for one of the K-6 proposals, whose total cost was estimated at between $20 and $23 million; that town meeting members are rightly concerned about the total tax impact of the two renovation plans; and that what we do for the high school will have an impact on the future of the primary schools. In other words, we may well be making major decisions about the future of primary school education in this town without admitting we are doing it. There needs to be a way of discussing this issue without letting our disagreements drag down the high school renovation. Again I would like to tip my hat to those who have volunteered the time to work on this proposal and I hope the debate/discussion of this issue is conducted in a respectul and optimistic manner.
Posted by
Roma Hanisis
For those of you interested in learning more about the updated building plans for Turners Falls High School and Great Falls Middle School cut and paste the following address into your browser address bar:
Posted by
Jeanne Weintraub
I'll be the first to agree that we need to update and renovate the schools in Montague, and I'm glad that plans are underway to get things going. But after taking a look at the cost comparisons (handed out at the town meeting) for the high school/middle school and information on the "Building Plans" web site posted by Judith Brenner, I have found myself with a number of unanswered questions:
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debora Seidman
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Posted by
THE LITTLE PINECONE COMPANY
Hello Everyone!
Posted by
Mik
Posted by
Judith Brenner
Dear Montague Residents,
Turners Falls High School has a problem. Last spring we received the results of the accreditation review conducted by The New England Association of Schools and Colleges (NEASC). The NEASC is a private group that evaluates and accredits educational institutions in New England. There are other similar groups in the other regions of the USA. After a two-year intensive self-study, in October of 1999 a committee from the NEASC visited TFHS and prepared an evaluation report. After I received the report in May, I distributed copies of it, contacted the media, made a presentation to the GMRSC, etc. At the PTO and School and Community Council meetings I learned that, despite these efforts, the result of the accreditation visit is not well known or understood. The groups suggested that I try other ways of sharing the information with the community. They suggested this website. Accreditation is important. It is the "stamp of approval". It shows community members, people looking to relocate, and colleges that a school has met rigorous standards. A full-scale evaluation is done every ten (10) years and is based on ten (10) areas or standards. TFHS did fine in eight (8) of these. The visiting team made recommendations and TFHS is working on these. The NEASC requires every school to submit a two-year update (due by October1, 2001) that shows that the school is making constant progress. (This is standard procedure. Things are never perfect and situations can change quickly so there is always constant review and change.) TFHS is accredited. ". BUT ". The school was given a warning for two (2) standards/areas: facilities and financial support. (These are now part of a standard called Community Resources for Learning.) I submitted a report to the NEASC on November 1st outlining plans that address their concerns. They review our situation and/or progress and report back to us. I am including excerpts from the accreditation letter so you can see exactly what needs to be addressed. The list is extensive. Some of the items have already been addressed, but others are much bigger problems. If you came to the Turners Falls High School and Great Falls Middle School Open House you probably saw newly revised plans for a proposed renovation /expansion and a cost comparison for repair/renovation vs. expansion/ renovation (to view these plans cut and paste the following internet address into your browser address bar http://www.gmrsd.k14.mass.edu/plans/bintro.htm or go to the Gill Montague Regional School District homepage and click on "new"). These plans were drawn up to address the concerns that put the school on warning. There will be meetings to talk about all of this and to look at proposed solutions. I hope this explanation of the accreditation process answers some of your questions and I hope that you will feel free to ask more. All of us need to talk and work to solve these problems. Sincerely, Judith Brenner Interim Principal of Secondary Education Excerpts from The NEASC Accreditation letter Dear Ms. Brenner: The Commission of Public Secondary Schools, at its March 19-20, 2000 meeting, reviewed the evaluation report from the recent visit to Turners Falls High School and continued the school?s accreditation in the New England Association of Schools and Colleges" Nevertheless, the Commission expressed concern regarding deficiencies related to school facilities and financial support (which includes criteria related to the former standards on School Facilities and Financial Support). In particular, the Commission identified areas of concern related to the facility, including but not limited to, educational obstacles resulting from the lack of soundproofing of classrooms, small class sizes, and little or no storage space in classrooms, all problems resulting from attempts to reconfigure the open space classrooms of the school. Additionally, the noise level from the gym impedes instruction in the classes located in close proximity to the gym" and there are problems with the heating and ventilation system. Also noted by the Commission are the lack of handicapped accessibility to the spectator stands in the stadium". As well, the Commission was troubled by the fact that the lack of an adequate level of financial support for technology and for the facility has adversely impacted the school. In particular the Commission cited the need to update classroom furniture, instructional equipment, library media resources and technology, and to repair and maintain equipment. Given these deficiencies, the Commission voted to place the school on warning for the Standard on Community Resources for Learning which now incorporates concepts from the previous Standards on School Facilities and Financial Support. The Commission requests that school officials submit a Special Progress Report" indicating how the following recommendations have been addressed:" · Develop and implement an engineering plan for the correction of the heating, ventilation, air conditioning system (HVAC). · Obtain current inspection documents for the facility to demonstrate compliance with state and federal regulations. · Provide secured storage space throughout the building. · Implement a plan for school-wide replacement of classroom furnishings" · Develop and begin to implement a plan to improve soundproofing of classrooms close to the gymnasium. · Develop and begin to implement a plan to provide adequate storage for all instructional areas. · Repair sinks and faucets in all lavatories. · Repair all drinking fountains. · Develop and begin to implement a plan to address all facility heating and ventilation problems. · Develop and begin to implement a plan to ensure handicapped accessibility to the stands in the football stadium". · Develop, fund and begin to implement a plan to update classroom furniture, instructional equipment, library-media resources and technology, and to repair and maintain equipment. Consistent with Commission policies, the school?s warning status will not be removed until the school can demonstrate that it has satisfactorily completed these and other evaluation report recommendations related to the cited Standard area of concern"
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Robin Sherman
Montague Open Space & Recreation Plan
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Lee Wicks
Hi,
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Julia Ward
I was given a car and I can't keep two.
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Anne
The Northampton LoWV site has a good link to the pros and cons of the ballot questions for next Tuesday's election. Those who work at the polls are emphatically suggesting that people know how they are going to vote before they enter the voting booth!! Eight questions take a lot of time to vote on if you haven't made a decision before you get there.
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Mik
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THE LITTLE PINECONE COMPANY
Saturday, November 4 is Cider Day in Frankin County!
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Julia Ward
Hi - I am looking for a lift to Boston on any upcoming weekend day if anyone is going and would like some company & gas money.
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Tom
FREE MAGAZINES!! I'm putting about 2 years worth of audio/video/multimedia/new technology type MAGAZINES out in front of our house (29 Main St.) feel free to come on by and snatch 'em up. there's some good info on a lot of media related stuff... they're free too.
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Jan Hogan
Part-time Employment Opportunity:
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Michele Russell
Line Dance Lessons every Tuesday night at the Montague Elks Lodge, Turners Falls, MA. Lessons begin at 7:00 - 9:00PM. Only $4.00 at the door, Casual, come as you are. No sign up Nec. For fun & updates check out: http://community.masslive.com/cc/elacunas
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THE LITTLE PINECONE COMPANY
Attention all local artisans:
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THE LITTLE PINECONE COMPANY
Hi all Villagers!
Posted by
Charlene D'Avanzo
I do not live in Montague Center but I would love to. Can you help me? I've lived in N. Leverett for about 20 years and I teach ecology at Hampshire College. I am looking for a small home not on the main road but in the Center. I've been looking for over 2 years now and would so much appreciate some help.
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Gertrude Woodard
COUNTRY FAIR -- FIRST CONGREGATIONAL CHURCH
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Rob
13" color TV for sale. GE brand approx. 2 years old. Remote control included. Works perfectly. Small enough for guilty TV watchers to hide in closet. Fifty bucks takes it.
Posted by
Mike Naughton
Has anyone heard anything about a revised building project proposal? I've heard something will come before Town Meeting in December -- the last I knew, there was a meeting last summer to discuss it generally, but things weren't final and I haven't heard anything since.
Posted by
Michael Abbate
I have free bales of mulch hay I am looking to give away. PLease call and we can schedule a time for you to pick up (evenings are best). If you are desparate, I can also deliver.
Posted by
Jeanne Weintraub
There is a school committee meeting tonight (Tue, 10-24) at 7:30 PM in the Sheffield School Cafeteria. Superintendent Roma Hansis will report on her recent site visit to Eau Claire Wism, the home of Brenda Finn, the finalist in the search for a new superintendent. There will also be updates on subcommittee work.
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Mary Jane Else
Shoestring Players present a production of William Shakespeare's
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Gertrude Woodard
World Community Day November 3-2000 Friday ROBBINS MEMORIAL CHURCH Munson Street in Greenfield Ma. Registration will begin at 1 PM. Program will start at 1:30 PM The Theme for this Worldwide. Celebration will be Standing up With those in need. Refreshments by the Ladies of the ROBBINS MEMOIAL CHURCH. ALL WOMEN are invited to attend. Bring a friend
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Becky Hollingsworth
JEEP FOR SALE! Prepare for winter by buying this 1994 4WD Jeep Cherokee wagon. 6 cyl. automatic, roof rack, 4 extra rims with studded snows. One owner. Garaged for 4 of its 6 six years; very good condition. Color: high-visibility blue for additional safety. $7200.
Posted by
Amy Bourbeau
Wizard of Oz Tickets: I am desperately looking for at least 2 tickets for any performance of the Wizard of Oz at the Shea this weekend.
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Chris Wise
Greetings and Salutations!
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Tom Adams
Here's a relaxing two minute video montage centered around one of Montague's most famous relaxation spots: The Bookmill.
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Leslie Edwards
Calling all Voluneers for a Green Party benefit...Julius Caeser--business as usual is being performed at the Montague Grange, 10/27 at 7:00. Any help you could offer with the following would be greatly appreciated:
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Mark Lattanzi
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Michael Bosworth
The Montague Historical Society is having its annual meeting on Wed., Oct. 25 at 7:30 p.m. at the Historical Society Museum on the 2nd floor of the Masonic Hall across from the Mini-Mart.
Posted by
Amy Bourbeau
FOR SALE: 1919 Glendale Palais Antique woodburning cookstove. This stove is a working six burner stovetop with large oven. We have used this stove for secondary heat for 6 years. It burns about 4 hours per load. We have just converted to a long burning traditional wood stove which will be our primary heat source this winter.
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Jeanne Weintraub
Yesterday by the Bookmill, I watched a car accident that I attribute to speeding. Here's how it happened: After waiting at around 5:00 PM with Lucia in her stroller to cross the street at the crosswalk, and seeing more than 3 cars whiz by at breakneck speed, I finally motioned to the next driver that we would like to cross. She was moving along as fast as the cars before her, but decided at the last minute to stop for us. The van in back was going so fast (and hadn't planned on stopping at the crosswalk either) that he plowed right into the car in front. The accident was serious enough to involve EMTs, although fortunately no one looked seriously hurt. I was left wondering whether MA really has a law on the books requiring vehicles to stop for pedestrians waiting at crosswalks, and why so many people felt it was ok to speed through Bridge Street on their way home from work.
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Mik
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Anne
Movement for Pre-schoolers information contact is Montague Parks and Recreations: (413) 863-3216 to sign up, as I understand it (I am calling now) (see below messages for more info or check out http://www.montaguema.net/parks
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Jan Hogan
THE POOL WILL OPEN NOVEMBER 6TH!
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Anne Flaherty
CREATIVE MOVEMENT FOR PRE-SCHOOLERS
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Willa and Eric
Willa just got a job at Amherst College and we want to move to Montague. We'd like to rent a large apartment or small house/cabin. Have a cat and 4 small birds. Non-smokers, quiet, and in love with Montague! Please call or email if you have a place to rent. Thanks, Willa and Eric 781-306-0804 (Medford)
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Tom
Hello fellow Montaguites...
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Julia Ward
Is anyone going to Amherst Saturday morning from Montague Center? I need to catch the noon bus from Amherst to Boston; GMTA only operates Monday through Friday - I'll pay to come along!
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Kip Moeller/JimMason
We are looking for a house or cabin to rent in the Montague/Leverett/Wendell area. Kip is a nurse, Jim is a writer. We are quiet and responsible nonsmokers with no pets. Please contact us if you have anything available. Thank you.
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Edythe
I am looking for someone who is comfortable with a chainsaw to cut up some trees that are already on the ground. I am estimating there is anywhere from 4-8 hours work involved that needs to be done sometime soon. I figure maybe $25/hour would be reasonable, but am open to discussion. You can call me at 548-1099 at home or email me at ellin@fas.harvard.edu.
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Andrew Jilani
I am looking for a good used car in the price range of 3000.00. I am interested in Hondas, Toyotas, Suburus, Saabs and Vokswagens. PLease contact me if you or someone you know wants to sell. Thank you.
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Tamara Kaplan
Watch out for glass in the playground in the sand under the excavator. This morning, when my kids were playing there, we must have found a dozen large shards of sharp glass. We put them in the garbage, but there might be more.
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Lucy Hemmendinger
I am looking for a reliable, honest, local appliance repair for my Amana dryer. Anyone have any recommendations? Arnie's in turner's is out of the business. My neighbors will appreciate me not showing up at their door with my wet laundry anymore. (maybe we should start a laundry co-op)
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Rob Hendry
The pedestrian crossing barrells in the village have disappeared due to theft/vandalism/etc. The highway dept. wants to replace them but needs money allotted from the selectboard. Selectmen Patricia Allen was quoted in the GFLD Recorder as saying she was not sure that buying new barrells was an effective use on town money...if they were just going to disappear again. I assert that they are vital to making the village of Montague Center a pedestrian friendly place. The barrels and signage say to cars that the street belong to pedestrians and bicyclists, as well as the automobile. I assert that at $86 dollars a peice the barrels are an wise and effective use of town money. Please call the Selectboard if you agree at 863-3204 and voice your support for the pedestrian crossing barrels. Thanks, Rob
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Dori McCormack
Gill-Montague Regional School Committee has an opening for a School Committee Member to fill the remaining six months of a one year term. Please send letter of interest by October 16, 2000 to: Superintendent of Schools / Gill-Montague Regional School district / 35 Crocker Avenue / Turners Falls, MA 01376
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Mark Lattanzi
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Susan danly
House cleaner wanted; four hours every other week. References required. Please call evenings.
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Dina Stander
House for Sale in the Village of Lake Pleasant, Montague. Custom built contemporary cottage with many unique built-in features. Energy efficient with good light, 1,100 sq. ft., 3 bedrooms, plus office, loft, a cook's kitchen, an especially nice bathroom, and a small garage. Washer, dryer, etc. 1.25 acres on a corner lot, potential second building site. Intermittent stream and garden space. $102,500. Pictures and some more info at: www.deanbrook.org/
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Karen
We just move here and need to downsize, so here's what we hope to sell:
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THE LITTLE PINECONE COMPANY
We would like to invite all of you to join us for our Halloween celebration for everyone on Tuesday October 31. We will have our boutique all decorated and goodies for all. Judging costume contests and local fun raffle give aways! Family fun! We are now serving fresh roasted coffee and baked goods from a local bakery that are sure to qlease. Come on in and see what we have to offer for you holiday gift giving needs. We'd love to meet you!The Healey's
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Barbara Veal
MIS/PARENT SPECIALIST. Franklin Athol Child Care Services, full-time, excellent benefits. Seeking "people" person to help parents access and pay for child care. Must have valid driver's license, reliable transportation, able to develop written materials and reports, maintain computer databases. Degree/experience in early childcare and education, attention to detail required. Applications considered until position is filled. Screenings begin October 10th. Send letter & resume to: Chris St. Hilaire, FCAC, FACCS, 393 Main Street, Greenfield, MA 01301
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Tad Montgomery
Ecological Engineer seeks abode, wee office &/or room for a backyard compost bin in the Saw Mill River Watershed i.e. Montague Center, North Leverett, Lake Wyola, & Lake Pleasant (367-exchange). Personal attributes include a love of children & gardening, inordinate ability to throw a frisbee long distances, an ungainly knowledge of septic systems, and a lifetime?s commitment to developing ecological technologies. I am generally quiet and don't smoke. Creative housing arrangements are encouraged.
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Hillary
Hi, we are looking into buying wood for our wood stove. So far, we have only seen one listing in the Gazette. Does anyone know of places in the valley to get wood (decent prices?) and even better near by?
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Heidi Dowling
I am looking to rent a three bedroom in the area. Soes anyone have any leads. I lived in Montague years ago and now wish to bring up my family in the area. The house would be for myself, husband and our two children (plus one on the way!)
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Nancy Grossman
House to rent, Leverett, 10 minutes from Amherst, 3 BR, 2 1/2baths, screened in porch, deck, dead end street, 1.25 acres,high cathedral ceiling with skylights in living room, glass picture windows in front of house, treehouse, wood floors, environmentally safe, washer/dryer first floor,two car garage, Leverett/Amherst school district, mudroom, dining room, eat-in kitchen, November 1st occupancy, no pets, $1300/month, feels like a vacation house, Call Nancy 5486999, grossman@javanet.com
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Jaye Pope
My family just got too large(and the friends that go along with us) to tote around in my Trooper. We had to up grade to a van and now have the Isuzu Trooper to part with. I'm temendously sad to part with my Trooper, but the mini van is like having a living room on wheels where we can all be cozy as we car pool to the next event on our agenda.
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Jeanne Weintraub
Looking for leads on a babysitter for our 2 year old daughter, for occasional evenings or Sat mornings
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Jeanne Weintraub
Can anyone report on what happened with the school committee meeting last night during which two candidates for superintendent of schools were scheduled to be interviewed?
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Don Ogden
CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SAWMILL RIVER?
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Sarah
We have a Duo Sport Children's pull behind a bicycle, cart! It is a double one, and we don't use it, so we are looking to sell it, it is two years old, it is enclosed, with a screen, and rain shield! If interested, give us a call, or e-mail us! Thanks :)
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Linda Koscinski
I have a stainless steel double sink and a stove top that I would like to sell. Both are in very good condition. Let me know if you are interested. Call evenings (or by email anytime).
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Rob
We've got a Queen Size MATTRESS for sale. Just bought it two months ago from Fly By Night in Noho, but it's too firm for us. It's a Gold Bond Extra Firm, made in Hartford, CT. Paid $289 for it, but will sell it for $125. It's very clean (pad was used for those couple months) and perfect for someone looking for a firm nights rest.
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Hillary
HI! We just moved into the area and would love to find out about great places/trails etc. for walking and/or hiking and just simply enjoying the outdoors. Tips about local swimming holes would be great as well! If you have any tips or know of great places please send us an email! Also, if you know anything about hunting season (when it is) and what places to avoid that time of year, could you include that as well. Hoping to hear from you soon and very excited to have moved into the area!!
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Tamara Kaplan
We're looking a buy a used canoe, preferably flat water, 16 - 17 feet. Paddles, too. Any leads please call 367-9907.
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Mik
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Seth Crawford
I have a Sega Dreamcast that I would like to sell. The system comes with the plugs, 2 controllers, VMU card (memory card), modem line, modem, Keyboard for online service and one game (Ready To Rumble). I am asking $200.00 for the whole system. Thanks.
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Jaye Pope
Indoor Action and Sports is hosting The River (WRSI) End of Summer Party this Saturday, Sept 16 from 10am to 5pm. Free admission to this event includes; live entertainment, a chance to win a one year lease on a car, or a chance on a canoe and other various stuff. There will also be a crafts fair (here's where I come in). Good Dirt Pottery will be there with original work including water fountains. I hope this will be a party bigger than the "Flea Market" event WRSI is advertising it to be. What ever the case I would like to invite my neighbors to this free event to visit my booth and receive a 10% discount on my work.
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Marti Hobbes
I'm looking for a female non-smoking housemate for our 4-bedroom household in Montague Center. The house is a gorgeous Greek Revival in the center of town. Rent is $378.75 and that includes heat. We have two cats.
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Paul Kaufman
THE MAGIC BUS IS (REALLY) COMING!!
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Mik, Anne, Miette & Ivy!
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Emily Monosson
We would like to try a very informal community soccer game for ALL ages and abilities - we will try for 4 pm Saturdays at the Montague Center park by the baseball field (hope there are no games - if so we can possibly relocate to North Street). Hope to see you there!
Posted by
Lou & Leslie Ekus
Could anyone suggest a reliable and competent cleaning service?
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Mik
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Mik
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Jeanne Weintraub
According to Tom Murphy,tonight's School committee meeting is supposed to begin at 6:00. They will be going into executive session right away to discuss the Superintendent salary and benefits package. There are two candidates coming to interview at the next meeting and the committee is getting prepared. Otherwise the agenda looks pretty light.
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Lucy Hemmendinger
I am cleaning out my basement and have tons of little plasic seedlings containers and plant containers of other sizes for starting plants. Would any of you expert gardeners out there like those to start your seeds next spring? I will be disposing of them this week if not.
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Jan Hogan
The new Parks & Recreation schedule is up on the website. Click here or go to the homepage and click on PARKS.
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Babs
Dear
We are writing to urge you not to use pesticides in response to the West Nile virus (WNV). Pesticides have far-reaching consequences, and are a threat to the public health. Wherever they are applied, they ultimately find their way into wells and other drinking water sources. Time and again their use has caused significant harm to humans, as well as to fish and other wildlife. Research indicates that pesticides pose a far greater risk to public health than the virus itself. Much has been made of the "low-toxicity" of pyrethroids, the "active ingredients" in Scourge, Anvil, and other resmethrin and sumithrin based pesticides most commonly used in adult mosquito-control programs in our state. But pyrethroids are endocrine-disruptors, a class of chemicals which have been linked to cancer. They are also a known hazard to asthmatics, persons with compromised immune systems, children, and the elderly. In these cases, pesticide exposure can trigger serious long-term illness or even death. Both of the pesticides being used in the Tri-State area are scheduled for reassessment by the EPA in 2002, for their endocrine disruption and cancer causing potential. Indeed, many pesticides continue to remain on the market even after researchers find that they are extremely harmful, because the EPA has not complied with Congress?s orders from 1972 to reevaluate pesticides. In 1996, EPA officials estimated that they will complete their pesticide safety re-evaluations in the year 2011 -- 34 years late. [reported in Our Children's Toxic Legacy: How Science and Law Fail to Protect Us from Pesticides by John Wargo (New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 1996), cited on www.rachel.org] Many pesticides (including Anvil and Scourge) use a synergist (piperonyl butoxide) to increase effectiveness; the combination can be much more toxic than the active ingredient alone, and piperonyl butoxide itself is being evaluated for its carcinogenic potential by the EPA. Piperonyl butoxide impedes the activity of liver enzymes which are the mechanism by which pyrethroids are eliminated from the body. Thus, claims about the relative speed at which pyrethroids are rendered harmless must also consider the added effects of the synergist. And then, the allegedly "inert" carrier substance, which is petroleum, must also be considered. A fine mist of petroleum can not be considered safe for anyone, it is not something that biodegrades quickly, and it is hazardous to the environment at every level. Pyrethroids are also highly toxic to fish, tadpoles, aquatic invertebrates, honeybees, and other beneficial insects. They are not approved for use in or near water, or areas subject to run-off. Yet mosquitoes breed in wet environments, so this is where much of the spraying occurs. This is a significant problem because as the numbers of natural predators are reduced, the mosquito population itself will have less competition and fewer natural controls. Soon after the mosquito-control program was implemented in NYC last fall, 90% of the lobster fishery in Long Island Sound was dead. The population has not recovered, and the lobster fishermen are out of business. The lobster fishermen have expressed their strong belief that the pesticides are to blame. Since pesticides are highly toxic to fish, as well as to crustaceans such as lobsters, this is not an unreasonable suspicion. [reported in the New York Times on July 31, 2000: " Dejected Lobstermen Blame Mosquito Spraying in Crippling Die-Off" by David M. Herszenhorn] Altosid, the larvicide being used in water in Massachusetts, contains a synthetic growth hormone, methoprene. This hormone breaks down into retinoids that are responsible for early development in humans and other species. Introducing synthetic retinoids into the environment has been shown to cause severe deformities in frogs, which are among the rapidly-declining amphibian population. [see: "Photoproducts and Metabolites of a Common Insect Growth Regulator Produce Developmental Deformities in XENOPUS," by James J. La Clair and others: ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY Vol. 32, No. 10 (1998), pgs. 1453-1461. cited on www.rachel.org] There is a great danger of a similar impact on humans. Furthermore, according to the EPA pesticide hotline, Altosid is "acutely toxic to estuarine invertebrates." It could have a devastating effect similar to the lobster die-off in Long Island Sound. In addition to the health risks, there is evidence that the use of pesticides is ineffective in controlling mosquitoes and mosquito-borne illnesses, themselves. Experts in the field of mosquito control have determined that such spraying actually increases the number of mosquitoes, makes succeeding generations pesticide resistant and increases the incidence of mosquitoes infected with transmissible viruses like WNV by as much as 15 times. [see: Are Mosquito Spray Pesticides Worsening the Encephalitis Problem? http://www.chem-tox.com/brevard/index.htm . SOURCE: Journal of the American Mosquito Control Assoc, Dec;13(4):315-25, 1997 Howard JJ, Oliver New York State Department of Health, SUNY-College ESF, Syracuse 13210, USA. ] We are not in a public health emergency! According to the Department of Public Health, WNV is a mild illness. Most of those who become infected will not even develop symptoms. Citizens can take common sense precautions against being bitten by mosquitoes. In addition, the Culex species of mosquito which carries WNV breeds only in foul, stagnant waters such as discarded tires, and is NOT found in living aquatic environments, not even marshes. We believe that education is the best measure. But if any other action is to be taken, there are a variety of effective, less costly alternatives to pesticides. Effective mosquito control relies on preventive measures such as removal of breeding habitat by reducing standing water wherever possible, applying Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis (BTI) to stagnant waters, and stocking isolated water bodies with mosquito-eating fish. Again, we urge you in the strongest terms, to STOP THE USE OF PESTICIDES and IMPLEMENT SAFER, MORE EFFECTIVE, NON-TOXIC PREVENTIVE MEASURES to protect the health of citizens and the environment in Massachusetts. Please let us know what you intend to do about this issue. Sincerely,
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Babs
Action for Safe Alternatives to Pesticides
Massachusetts Statewide Coalition P.O. Box 841, Great Barrington, MA 01230 413-648-9240, extension 2 jajm@bcn.net lseal@altavista.com August 28, 2000 Dear Friends, Environmental Activists, and Advocates for Public Health: We have become concerned about the use of pesticides to control the West Nile virus (WNV) in the state of Massachusetts, and in neighboring states throughout the region. We have researched the virus, the pesticides, and the alternatives, and have concluded that public education and non-toxic preventive measures are the wisest choice. We ask you to read the letter we have written to the Massachusetts Mosquito Control Boards, Department of Food and Agriculture, local Boards of Health, Department of Environmental Management, Fish and Wildlife, Department of Public Works, and local government officials, such as the Select Boards in our own and neighboring towns. We encourage you to use this information to contact these and other decisionmakers and encourage them to STOP THE USE OF PESTICIDES NOW and ADOPT SAFER, MORE EFFECTIVE, PREVENTIVE MEASURES to protect the people, land, and wildlife of the Northeast. The decision to spray or not spray in Massachusetts is being made locally, based on recommendations from statewide agencies but with the additional assessment of the local government of each town. It is therefore crucial that, in addition to calling or writing to the state and county agencies, you also contact the people who make policy at a local level, in your own town and the nearby towns whose choices will most directly impact you. From our own research we have found that different towns are consulting with different "experts" before making their decision. Some are working with the Department of Public Works, some with the Department of Public Health, some with a local Mosquito Control Board, etc. This is why we are targeting all the agencies and departments possible. If you are concerned about a state forest or other public land, make sure you target whoever is in charge of that particular property. This varies. Call around until you find the appropriate decisionmakers for each one. Some towns have already sprayed, others have decided not to, and some are still debating. It is important to target all of them, regardless of where they are in the decisionmaking process, so that they will know where public opinion is and be able to take it into account in future. Because this is such a decentralized process, it is not a simple matter of just targeting one official. But, because so many of the decisions are being made by local people, it is also easier to have an impact when we make our voices heard. START WITH YOUR LOCAL BOARD OF HEALTH AND THE GOVERNING BODY IN YOUR TOWN (Select Board, City Council, Mayor, etc). If you can find out who they are consulting with, the next step is to target whoever that is. We recommend that in addition to targeting your local people, at minimum everyone also contact the following three statewide authorities: Suzanne K. Condon, Director Massachusetts Department of Public Health Bureau of Environmental Health Assessment 250 Washington Street, 7th Floor Boston MA 02108 phone 617-624-5757 fax 617-624-5777 John Kenney, Chief of Enforcement Massachusetts Pesticide Bureau State Reclamation and Mosquito Control Board Massachusetts Dept of Food and Agriculture 251 Causeway St, Suite 500 Boston MA 02114-2151 phone (617) 626-1781 E-mail: John.Kenney@state.ma.us Robert Durand, Secretary Executive Office of Environmental Affairs 251 Causeway Street, 9th Floor Boston MA 02114 phone 617-626-1000 fax 617-626-1181 Contact information for localities, and for other statewide agencies such as Fish and Wildlife, can be obtained through http://www.state.ma.us (Search the section under: FIND. For local contacts click "Commonwealth Communities" and then select the town you want from the alphabetical list. Scroll down until you get what you are looking for. Many of the statewide agencies also have regional offices. The website is a maze, however, and in some cases the phone book or directory assistance may be an easier choice.) A sample letter follows. Copy it, make any improvements you wish, sign and date it with your full name and address, and send it as soon as possible. Unfortunately, many of the targeted officials have websites where you can read their press releases, but no e-mail addresses where you can send your comments (at least, not any we could find, even after extensive phone calling and web research). Some of the local governments have no website at all. In these cases, you will have to print out and mail the letter on paper. You can try using it for talking points in phone calls, as well. Also, please share it with others and ask them to do the same. Please help to spread the word. Sincerely, Action for Safe Alternatives to Pesticides? A.S.A.P. representative: L. Seal LaMadeleine
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Melissa & Joshua Doucette
We are a young married couple very interested in finding a place to live in the Montague area. Our budget is rather small, ($500+ or up to $600 inclusive) but we are very quiet and considerate neighbors who have between the two of us some fairly useful skills. Looking for a one- or two-bedroom apartment in a house with a yard (we also have an outdoor cat named Sabina). Please let us know if you have anything available or know someone who might. Thank you very much.
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Franklin Community Action Corp
FRANKLIN COMMUNITY ACTION CORPORATION
JOB OPENINGS 8/28/00 FCAC is the largest social service agency serving Franklin County and the North Quabbin area. FCAC is dedicated to promoting economic justice and improving the quality of life for low-income people. Our programs include: Community Programs, Energy Conservation, Family Support Services, Fuel Assistance, The Mediation and Training Collaborative, Parent-Child Development Center and Head Start, Franklin Athol Child Care Services, Youth Programs and Women, Infants and Children, (WIC). FCAC is an Affirmative Action, Equal Opportunity Employer and does not discriminate in its hiring practices on the basis of disability, age, race, ethnicity, religion, veteran status, sexual orientation or gender. FCAC is committed to recruiting and retaining a diverse work force. If you need special accommodation to make an application, please contact the name in the specific job announcement. Interested applicants may send resume and letter directly to the Program Director listed in the announcement at: FCAC, 393 Main Street, Greenfield, MA 01301 unless otherwise noted. Disabilities Specialist, search re-opened. Parent Child Development Center. 32.5 hrs/wk, August through mid-June. $15.50/hr with excellent benefits. Qualifications: Minimum BA in Special Ed with emphasis on preschool children OR a BA in early Childhood Education or related field with focus on special needs. Minimum of 3 years experience in a preschool setting plus 2 years experience in program management/administration; experience developing, implementing and monitoring behavior intervention programs. Send letter and resume to Val Luther, Associate director, PCDC, 393 Main St., Greenfield, MA 01301. Applications considered until position is filled. Mental Health Specialist, Parent Child development Center, 20 hrs/wk, full year. $15.50/hr plus pro-rated benefits including health insurance. Qualifications: Masters Degree in Mental Health or related field, LISW strongly preferred. Minimum of 3 years experience in the mental health field, preferably in Child and Family Counseling. Responsibilities: Maintain active supporting role for Early Head Start, Home Base and Family Child Care families and staff. Work collaboratively with program staff and area service providers to ensure that social, emotional and developmental needs of preschool children and their families are being met. Excellent training, support services and benefits. Applications considered until position is filled. Send resume and letter to Val Luther, Associate Director, PCDC, 393 Main St., Greenfield, MA 01301. Outreach Coordinator, Women, Infants and Children (WIC) Program. Seeking outgoing, self-starter to coordinate outreach/referrals with health/human service providers in Franklin County and North Quabbin region. Valid driver's license, reliable transportation required. Full time, some evening and Saturday hours. Bi-lingual/bi-cultural applicants encouraged. Send resume and letter to WIC Director, FCAC, 393 Main St., Greenfield, MA 01301. Applications considered until position is filled. Housing Case Manager, First Call For Help/North Quabbin. Provide Case Management/Housing Search services to families in the North Quabbin area. Reliable transportaion required. Experience/education in Human Services or related field prefered. Send resume and letter to: Rhonda Calvi, First Call for Help, 359 Main Street, Athol, MA 01331. Resumes will be screened beginning Sept. 5.
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Jan
Hi, I am looking for a woodstove (top-loader, preferred) but as long as it is safe and works well, to heat our camp in VT, if anyone might be getting rid or upgrading theirs. thanks, jan
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Tom
hi there,
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Edythe
Help! I am in desperate need of a dog walker/feeder for tomorrow(Sun. 8/27) Toby is a sweet 5 year old Brittany who needs dinner (and a walk if possible) tomorrow night around 4-6 pm. I would be happy to pay someone or swap services. I live near the Ashram on Rt. 63 (2-3 miles south of Hunting Hills) and have trails going from my house to the waterfall, Mt. Toby, etc.
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Anne Flaherty
I'm looking for more info about homeschooling networks / cooperatives out here in the Montague area specifically for my 3.5 year old who will be 4 in April 2001. If you have information (websites or contacts) or are interested in starting a homeschooling group including kids of slightly older or younger ages, please contact me.
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Paul & Karen
THE MAGIC BUS IS COMING!!!
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Paul K
helicopter flights have been going on for all the years i've lived here, especially this "harvest" time of year. hope you haven't got anything "funny" growing out in the backyard mik.
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Mik
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Michael Bosworth
Wild Edibles Walk, Sunday, Oct. 15 at Bitzer-Rowe Farm on Hatchery Rd.
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Rob
If you're in need of a bed......I've got a box spring and mattress that are yours for the taking. You haul them away while I continue to clean my basement.
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Lucy Hemmendinger
Anyone out there with a truck who would like to share a truckload of composted manure? I will donate labor if you supply truck.
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Mik
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Tom
FOUND: one extremely cute, very young little black kitten...female (i think), slight white spot on belly and neck...no collar. found at 7pm. 8/11, 29 main street.
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Tom
Hi there,
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Lucy Hemmendinger
Does anyone know where I can get a truck load of compost or manure? I have been calling farms and nurseries to no avail.
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Lucy Hemmendinger
Vacation in Montague
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Lucy Hemmendinger
MONTAGUE YOGA
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Ritchard York
Hi, First off I like to compliment this site,it's great..
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Dori McCormack
Hi. We're looking for:
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Mark Lattanzi
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